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Old 09-30-2011, 03:33 PM
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OUCH!!!!!!!!!!!!!

A Midway flier came a few days ago, and they had a sale on some top end Eley with a regular price of almost $20.00 per 50.

WOW!

Bought some high end .22 match/target ammo back a few years to ring out my Clark Custom 77/22 and see just how well it would shoot.

At that point, some Lapua match/target ammo was in the 15 - 17 dollar range while the top end Eley was closer to the $10.00 - 12.00 price level.

With the Eley at almost $20.00, that must push the Lapua up close to the 25 dollar levels.

I have a bit of the match/target ammo on hand to show off the rifle, but the serious match shooters must really be biting the bullet to feed their habit!

Keep em coming!

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Old 10-01-2011, 08:46 AM
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With the Eley at almost $20.00, that must push the Lapua up close to the 25 dollar levels.

I have a bit of the match/target ammo on hand to show off the rifle, but the serious match shooters must really be biting the bullet to feed their habit!

Keep em coming!
That's why I only shoot my Winchester Super X in competition and use CCI Blaser or Remington Golden Bullet for most of my other shooting. 17,000 rounds in inventory but only 1000, (minus what I shot in my last match), of it is match ammo.
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Old 10-01-2011, 07:02 PM
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I shoot a lot of Lapua Center X which isn't SO bad at around $12 but anything higher than that I can't justify. Also have good luck with Wolf MT at around $52/500.
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Old 10-02-2011, 03:04 PM
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FWIW: I would stock up now even at the high prices. I would expect anything made outside the USA to skyrocket any day now. Even though commodity metals such as copper are nearly 1/2 of their fairly recent spot market prices, it has not lowered the cost of things produced with them including pipes and ammo.

This might be the best time to expand your lead portfolio. I have noticed myself that some rim fire ammo is approaching the cost of center fire, I assume it is because of the countries themselves undergoing upheaval such as Italy and the euro pulling even with the dollar.
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Old 10-02-2011, 03:28 PM
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Not bad think'in jbee,

I have a fairly nice stock of .22 on hand, not up to Old Grumps standards, but gaining on it.

I try to remain at the point where issues such as those found when the obamanation was elected and for a period after, do not negatively/greatly effect me.

I really didn't shed many tears for the folk who where crying their eyes out over the shortage of ammo or reloading supplies.

The smart folk have a stash of things like food, fuel, powder and ball on hand, as there are times as seen over the last 3 years or so when important things can be hard to find.

I just don't have a lot, or the need of, a great lot of target/match ammo.

Do have however, enough to make things interesting for the on lookers when I take out the Clark Custom 77/22

Keep em coming!

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Old 10-05-2011, 03:57 PM
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You can't have too big of a lead portfolio! Buy low, shoot high!
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Old 10-05-2011, 11:57 PM
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Lead, copper, brass, steel, are the current entry level precious metals for investors. Times like these, gold, silver, platinum may be out of reach but for me these lessor metals are always in my portfolio.
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Old 10-06-2011, 02:16 AM
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All these mail order places charge an "Arm & A Leg" for items you can usually find locally at your Wal-Mart or favorite Sporting Goods Store.
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Old 11-22-2012, 06:35 PM
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I dont know what Ill do when I run out of some 3 yr old stock??

Some of us were talking at a couple matches this summer about this and how it affects younger, family of shooters. Practice for 2 or 3 and the match will shoot up about 80-100 bucks worth of ammo...ouch..
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Old 11-23-2012, 04:45 AM
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Stay tuned, as the prices will continue to go higher as long as the US continues to flood the world with worthless greenbacks. Throw in a new round of stifling regulations, and you have the recipe for skyrocketing prices.

In fact, I think I will go buy some more today ;-)
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Old 11-23-2012, 08:36 AM
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Yep, was at one of the area supplies a week or so ago, and bought some components.

They were down to one brick of CCI Blazer and less when I left the store.

Smart people keep stocked up.

However, I can feel for the match/target shooters. Just think of doing all the shooting/testing to find a favored lot of Eley or Lapua or any of the quality target ammos, then setting down to order in 15 or 20 thousand rounds of that lot number.

BIG OUCH as Langenc indicates. Just think of it when the price is 15 - 20 dollars per 50 shots. You could be talking some thousands of dollars. Oh my yes, BIG OUCH!

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Old 11-25-2012, 06:20 AM
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. . . However, I can feel for the match/target shooters. Just think of doing all the shooting/testing to find a favored lot of Eley or Lapua or any of the quality target ammos, then setting down to order in 15 or 20 thousand rounds of that lot number.

BIG OUCH as Langenc indicates. Just think of it when the price is 15 - 20 dollars per 50 shots. You could be talking some thousands of dollars. Oh my yes, BIG OUCH!

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If my math is correct, at $15/box it would be $150 per brick and $1500 per case. Four cases comes to $6000. Now that should put a crimp in anyone's beer money for that month!
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Old 11-25-2012, 06:38 AM
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Yep, you got that right Marshal.

From what I read, the serious target/match shooters, go to their suppliers for some test ammo, making sure the supplier has enough stock on hand from any given lot number, buy and test different lots and then go back and buy up a goodly amount of the ammo their rifle favors.

It is kind of like the National Geographic used to do with Kodachrome film. They'd make sure the suppliers had a bunch of different lot numbers on hand, All in proper storage conditions of course, buy and test the film, then those lots which met their color requirements, resolution, contrast etc, they'd buy up a bunch and likely freeze it until it was sent out for a shoot. If not frozen, they at least kept it in very cold conditions.

They even set their own ASA numbers for the different lot numbers as well as testing the cameras to assure correct operation and settings.

Sad though it may be, Kodachrome is now history, we better be thankful we can still buy Eley and other top quality .22 ammo.

Hmmmmmmm? Maybe history should tell us something about the amount of stock we keep on hand.

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Old 11-27-2012, 04:05 AM
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I don't believe it's just 22 ammo. I was in the local Wal-Mart a week or so ago and while waiting for my perscriptions wandered back to the sporting good section. Except for 22 ammo and some for my CCW handguns I haven't bought ammo for centerfire rifles or handguns in two or three decades. I about fell over when I found myself in front of the ammo case and saw the prices of some fairly common cartridges. When I got home I went to my reloading room and took stock of all the lead, linotype, primers and brass I've accumulated over the years. I'm ok for quite a while.

The only suggestion I have is stock up while you can. I don't shoot 22 matches but I still have a few thousand rounds of rimfire ammo stashed away. With our current political situation one absolutely does not know what may be coming down the pike.
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Old 11-27-2012, 10:48 AM
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Well said Sharps!

I was into an area store this morning, and went back to tell the counter man in the sporting goods section the very distructive results I saw from a Hornady gummy nose 45/70 kill on a nice buck this past Friday night. Butchered the critter Sunday afternoon. WHAT A MESS!!!

The Point I tried to make with the fellow was that last night another friend took a buck with his 30/06 and a 165gr Nosler Partition load I developed for him Summer before last.

Both shoulder hits, which in my opinion are not desireable, but the difference in distruction and meat loss was daylight to dark difference.

This buck also is hanging in my shop and I'll be elbo deep in the butchering process.

I had a low opinion of the gummy nose before, but what I saw has just proven how very bad and soft this Hornady bullet is.

Then I read of people asking about that bullet for elk an moose.

I DON'T THINK SO -----------------! It's not even a good deer bullets if you value the meat!

Anyway, as per the sticker shock, the counter man then showed me the price of the Hornady gummy nose when compaired to the other 45/70 loads they had on the shielf.

The much lower price alone would bring people who are not in the know, to buy this very defective Hornady product.

Hornady is, after all, a good name with respected products, but they sure blew it with the gummy nose 45/70 as it flat out sucks in the integrity department!

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Old 11-27-2012, 08:43 PM
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It's not just .22 target ammo that's OUTTA sight, it's .22 thru 12 ga. I stop in at a Walmart close to work after I work nights-they are still stocking at 6 AM but are open for business. Been trying to stock up on Federal .22 550 rd. bricks. I managed 1 so far & 3 Remington 225 rd. bricks. Federal is practically non existant.
All other handgun ammo is in short supply. The guy that works the gun section said they may start ammo rationing again as they did 4yrs. ago.
If people would rid themselves of paranoia, we wouldn't be in this predicament.
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Old 11-28-2012, 09:01 AM
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A better answer is, if people were always stocked as they should be, they would not now need to stock up.

Sorry, I have little time for those who, as after the last obamanation election, cried their eyes out because they couldn't find ammo or components to buy.

It is like food, if your shelves are bare, when the truck can't make it to your local store, it is no ones fault but your own.

Currently, in the local area, there is plenty of arms and ammo available. Kind of surprised, as I figured it would have been gone by now.

Wake up people, the obamanation is still with us and WILL get worse!

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Old 11-28-2012, 04:07 PM
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Well, how timely from a year ago when I posted 2011-10-05. I would say shotgun shells have increased the most, wished I was able to hold onto the 10 gauge instead of selling all mine. I would say the 12 gauge is now up 10-15%. Hard to tell on the .22LR. The .40 is up there (no more $0.22 per round deals) and the 7.62x54r is up about $6 a spam can. Slight increase on the cheap steel cased 5.56 spam cans if you can find them. Big increase on the .308 stuff. Gun prices are up all over the board including the .22LR semi-autos. Getting hard to find cheap 9mm and .380 acp anything other then Hi-Points. Though I have noticed carbon fiber arrows have gone down slightly in cost. Clothes both foreign and domestic have are up a lot. I am glad I invested in large cans of corn :-D
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Old 11-30-2012, 07:05 AM
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Well said SHARPS!!!!!!!!!!

I get a bit upset when I see stones being thrown at people smart enough to be prepaired, when the fault/problem is not theirs, but sets at the door step of those who aren't and now, as 4 years ago or in the billery years wish to cry and moan because they weren't smart enough.

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