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Old 06-30-2005, 08:12 AM
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worst .22 autoloaders?


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In everyone's opinion: What are the worst autoloading rifles you've owned--and why?
I always come across .22LR automatic rifles in pawn shops and want to know what to stay away from!
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Old 06-30-2005, 03:19 PM
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I guess I'll give this a shot.

The worst I've ever had experience with was an old Springfield, although I don't know what model. My dad picked it up at an auction, and it would jam on every single shot. Something was messed up with the extraction/ejection system on it. It probably could have been fixed fairly easily, but why bother when we already have two autoloaders that function very well.

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Old 06-30-2005, 03:24 PM
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Ruger 10/22, you have to replace the barrel, stock, trigger, bolt just about every thing to get it to shoot close to where you want it to hit.
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Old 07-02-2005, 11:43 AM
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Before replacing anything on my stock Ruger 10/22 carbine, it would shoot nickel-sized 10-shot groups at 25 yards. I had an aftermarket trigger, sear, and hammer put in because the trigger pull was horrible from the factory. It still shoots nickel-sized groups at 25 yards, but I enjoy it a lot more. I also put in a VQ extractor and WeaponKraft Bolt Buffer, and I haven't had a single jam since with cheap bricks of Remingtons, Federals and American Eagles, as well as more expensive stuff like Velocitors and Minimags.

Yes, if you want tack-driver accuracy from a 10/22, it costs some money for barrels, stocks, etc. As an autoloader, it's accuracy and reliability is just fine out of the box, in my opinion. A few inexpensive parts make it a lot better. But if you want pinpoint accuracy, then forget about autoloaders all-together and buy an Anschutz, Kimber, or Sako bolt action. It will shoot as well or better out of the box for about the same amount of money as a modded up 10/22. It will also hold it's value better as you will never get nearly as much for a 10/22 as you sink into it on aftermarket parts.

For people who enjoy fiddling with things and do-it-yourself projects, the 10/22 can be a lot of fun and quite rewarding. If I ever need a more accurate 22, you can bet that I will be buying a heavy barrel bolt-action, but I'd probably still hang on to my 10/22.

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Old 07-02-2005, 01:53 PM
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For people who enjoy fiddling with things and do-it-yourself projects, the 10/22 can be a lot of fun and quite rewarding. If I ever need a more accurate 22, you can bet that I will be buying a heavy barrel bolt-action, but I'd probably still hang on to my 10/22.

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I just polish the internals and make sure the stock is well bedded and well sealed. end up with 1/2 to 3/4" groups. Still costs a lot tho, as one of the grandkids usually ends up with the completed project. (so far 3 rifles), (3 grandchildren and one Great grand son left). But it's worth it just for the look on their faces when Grandpa gives them their first gun.

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Old 07-02-2005, 03:20 PM
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One of the worst 22 autoloaders I have ever worked with is the Remington Nylon 66. The rifles functions well with most ammo. Using the open sights the Nylon 66 gives resonable accuracy and satisfaction.
When you scope the Nylon 66 the grooved area for the scope mount is located on a reciever cover that is held on by two pins. These have play in them an allow the whole cover to shift around and change the zero of the scope. You cannot hunt or shoot targets with the scoped Nylon 66. A real peice of junk.
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Old 07-02-2005, 07:58 PM
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One of the worst 22 autoloaders I have ever worked with is the Remington Nylon 66. The rifles functions well with most ammo. Using the open sights the Nylon 66 gives resonable accuracy and satisfaction.
When you scope the Nylon 66 the grooved area for the scope mount is located on a reciever cover that is held on by two pins. These have play in them an allow the whole cover to shift around and change the zero of the scope. You cannot hunt or shoot targets with the scoped Nylon 66. A real peice of junk.
Hay William have you looked at what the Nylon rifles are bringing in collector prices? My buddy next door has a mint one and got around 450 bucks for it at the gun show a couple of months ago. I darned near had apolexy.
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Old 07-03-2005, 05:07 AM
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Yes! This collector thang makes no sence to me.
Of course it is just my opinion but, I think a collectors vault is where the Nylon 66 series belong!
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Old 07-03-2005, 09:53 AM
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But does it jam?

I thought the Nylon 66 was supposed to be a great design because it didn;t jam often and was reliable as a shooter--however I am glad to know that it too has design faults.
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Other than the looks, I always liked the 66. I've never owned one mind you, but one of best friends when I growing up had one and a lot of animals met their demise because of that thing. Neither of us could ever afford to scope it. Shoot, I couldn't afford one, I toted an old Winchester 67 singleshot.
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Old 07-03-2005, 10:04 AM
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Not a brand, but a style.

Semi auto 22 rimfire rifles with tubular magazines!!

Every one I have used/owned/seen blow back the gritty, dirty burned powder into the action. After so many shots, a take down and cleaning is needed. The way the action is exposed because of feeding from the "front" of the receiver is a basic flaw of this type of design. Rimfire semi autos are straight blow back, no delay and the powder is dirty dirty dirty.
All of the detachable magazine types I have seen do not have this trouble.
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Old 07-03-2005, 07:48 PM
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Hey cut the Nylon66 some slack ,I own two of them and a little dab of glue behind the cover fix,s the movment problem.
Great guns to shot and I have,nt had a jam yet.
Dont think much of 10/22s
Had a marlin with a tube mag,piece of junk.
Dont mind the clip mag Marlins though.
I currently own 24 .22s ,man I just love the .22cal, 8 of which are semiauto,have to agree the bolt actions are the more accurate ones.

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I like the clip fed MARLINS Too,I have the Marlin stainless PAPOOSE,I think its a very good gun for what it is,takedown and all
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Old 07-29-2005, 04:53 PM
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Colorado Pete:

I've owned many different 22 LR autos and currently own a Marlin 995SS (magazine fed) and a Marlin 60SS (Tube fed). They both shoot VERY WELL WITH NO PROBLEMS! Both are very accurate as well and if I had a complaint about either one it would be trigger pull. With that said both triggers are smoothing out with use.

Years ago I owned a couple of 10/22's, Nylon 66's, Savage Model 6D, Winchester M67, Mossbergs bolts and autos and lots of Marlin bolt actions, and a Remington 572 pump. All of these rifles shot good and I had but a few problems between all of them. Some I still own. Right now I'm experimenting with my Marlin 60SS and have fired over 1300 rounds without cleaning. She still handles High-Velocity without any jams or FTF. Some standard velocity rounds will not cycle now but will when I clean the rifle again. Much more reliable then I originally expected.

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I can't say this rifle is one of the "worst", but it was one of the jammin'est rifles I've ever owned - a Browning BAR 22. Feels good in the hands, has good sights, but the internal feed from the magazine is just plain inaccessible. I got very good at field disassembly. The ammo I had best luck with was the American Eagle. Anything that was heavily waxed, like CCI, was pure death to the function of the rifle. I still have because it still has a place in my heart, but I've mostly retired it.

Now the little Browning semi-auto takedown 22's (the ones with the magazine feed in the stock) are reliable as heck. But don't shoot them from your pickup, with shorts on. They bottom eject, and those casings are hot!
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Old 07-29-2005, 09:34 PM
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I thought the Nylon 66 was supposed to be a great design because it didn;t jam often and was reliable as a shooter--however I am glad to know that it too has design faults.
Once upon a time I shot a military model of the Nylon 66. They were one solid black color rather than the space ship look..and had unique serial numbers. These were packed six to a case with a brick of .22Long ammo. Not long rifle....long.. I wish I could have kept that...even thought..it really isn't much of a rifle...worked good in wet swampy areas though..
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Old 07-30-2005, 09:37 AM
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Now the little Browning semi-auto takedown 22's (the ones with the magazine feed in the stock) are reliable as heck. But don't shoot them from your pickup, with shorts on. They bottom eject, and those casings are hot!
I see I'm not the only one to learn not to sit down and shoot the little bottom eject Brownings while wearing shorts. At least it was a short lesson.

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Old 07-30-2005, 11:24 AM
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Worse one I had was the Remmington Viper. Trigger pull was about 5 pounds and 5" long. Got really dirty. Pain to clean. Made of plastic.
Only good thing about it is I got it for free.
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Old 07-31-2005, 04:50 AM
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worst 22 auto

The Nylon 66!
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Old 07-31-2005, 06:25 PM
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I see I'm not the only one to learn not to sit down and shoot the little bottom eject Brownings while wearing shorts. At least it was a short lesson.

Lee L.
I don't learn that fast, unfortunately. I'd rather suffer the pain than let a running squirrel flee without fear! Those little Brownings are great, but I wish they were more "full-size".
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