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Old 01-26-2008, 06:10 PM
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Round ball in a 20 gauge


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Anyone here ever load a round ball in a 20 gauge to use as a slug. I took an H&R 20 gauge,cut the barrell back to 20 inches, put on an ATI stock and forearm,Put on a heat shield and a fake flash suppressor for my 15 year old son. He's costing me an arm and a leg just to buy shot to keep ammo reloaded for him.I have plenty of lead so I thought I would reload with a round ball if this is possible. What size ball should I use. I would like to reload with the ball in the wad. I was thinking probably either a .570 or .575 round ball.
I know these probably would not be super accurate but we shoot at steel gongs that are 12 inches square so that would be accurate enough.any advice and suggested load data would be appreciated. Wire Nut
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Old 01-26-2008, 06:33 PM
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You might do search on 20 gauge slug loads. James Gates has posted a bunch on shooting heavy cast loads in both the 20 gauge and 12 gauge. He's doing some really interesting work on big game shotgun loads. Check out some of his posts also.

We have a short range deer season here in this part of Idaho and I've both a 20 gauge and 12 gauge shotgun that I'm going to run some of his tri-ball loads thru to see what kind of accuracy I can get for that season next year. My only problem is I need a new barrel for my Mossberg 835. The instructions says not to use slugs in this over bored 12 gauge barrel.
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Old 01-27-2008, 10:21 AM
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Round balls? Interesting! Hard cast round balls in shotgun bore size has been around forever. Frank Forester, in 1838, traveled and hunting all over the USA with a .60" (cal) rifle and put down about everything! The normal bore of the 20 runs about .625",
The problem comes with the fast twiat in these modern guns! Much too fast for ball except at very slow velocity. You might want to try an undersize ball in a plastic wad.......or find/buy a mold.
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Old 01-27-2008, 11:09 AM
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Lee makes a slug mold for use in a standard plastic wad, but it's not a round ball, but a hollow based keyed slug designed to be loaded in a standard shotgun shell loader. I'm thinking about getting a standard rifled barrel for my mossy for slug usage and putting some of James heavy duty ammo thru it for our short range season next fall given I'm still around and kicking. Perhaps with the old aimpoint I might be able to use it to a hundred yards.
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Old 01-27-2008, 05:56 PM
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I just got a .562 round ball mold.I plan on loading with the ball in the wad.I measured the petals on the wads I have and they measure about .020" of an inch.The barrell at the muzzle where I cut it off mesures .615 of an inch. The .562 ball may be a tad small but I am going to try it anyway. As long as knothead ( my son) can hit a 12 inch gong at 50 or 75 feet he will be happy. Thanks for the info and any other will be appreciated. Wire nut
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Old 01-27-2008, 06:58 PM
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Maybe some of the older guys will remember the little single shot foldinging shots guns, mine was a Beretta but were marked under several names. Got a 20ga.very cheap as something truely nasty had rusted the last few inches of barrel (best guess is that something corrosive had gotten onto and into the bore). Ended up as a 21" no-choke and I added a set of rifle sights.

Was wonderfully accurate with RWS slugs, but for practice and gooding around, tried round ball.

Like you, started with regular shot cups. Unlike you, wasn't going to try smokeless powder...shotguns are a bit "twitchy" about component changes....so used black powder. Some of what I found might apply.

Shot cups come in different thicknesses...some for steel, some for lead, but there seems a wide variety.

The ball will seat deeply in most cups...too deeply in most, but today there might be some wads for very light loads that might be better.. With BP, I just added fiber wads between the cup and the charge, cut the shot cup's pedals down, and got everything to end up nice and tight when crimped (used a standard star crimp).

Accuracy got a bit better with a little granulated poly UNDER the ball...believe it helped the ball conform to the bottom of the shot cup without deforming at ignition. Guess you could use the same stuff to build up the ball in the cup so it ends up near the top and crimps nice and evenly, but i haven't tried that.
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Overbore Mossberg & Slugs.

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You might do search on 20 gauge slug loads. James Gates has posted a bunch on shooting heavy cast loads in both the 20 gauge and 12 gauge. He's doing some really interesting work on big game shotgun loads. Check out some of his posts also.

We have a short range deer season here in this part of Idaho and I've both a 20 gauge and 12 gauge shotgun that I'm going to run some of his tri-ball loads thru to see what kind of accuracy I can get for that season next year. My only problem is I need a new barrel for my Mossberg 835. The instructions says not to use slugs in this over bored 12 gauge barrel.
faucettb:

Mossberg's warning is aimed at conventional foster type soft lead hollow based slugs in the 10 gauge size overbore barrel. The overbore may let high pressure gas into the hollow hollow base causing the thin lead sidewalls to separate from the heavier nose of the slug. Then the wads would blow past the lead ring leaving a bore obstruction. Bad news when the next shot is fired!

Dixie Tri-Ball loads then will fire safely in overbore barrels like any charge of shot.

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