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Old 07-14-2009, 06:11 AM
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.410 shotgun shell reloading question

I have not started reloading yet. I recently acquired my first ever reloader - a MEC 600JR MK5 for my .410. The powder I received with it went right into a storage container, and will not see the light of day until I get and read the appropriate reloading manual(s).

I also received shot, wads and a bunch of empty hulls. The gentleman that sold these to me said that these Remington hulls (green hulls) use a "different" primer than the regular 209 shotgun primer - a "little smaller", and he thought they were a 209P or 209R - can't remember exactly what he said they were. Wish I had wrote it down.

Now, I'm going to do some research into this, particularly with a reloading manual in hand, but just wanted to know if anyone has come across this, and if they are worth buying primers for? Or should I just dispose of these and reload the ones that take regular shotgun primers? I was thinking - "Don't confuse things... get one and stick with it" when it comes to reloading.

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Old 07-14-2009, 09:31 AM
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A quick look at the Lyman #4 Shotshell Reloading Handbook shows all makes of primers used in Remington hulls. Remington's current primer is the 209 STS which is compatible with the recent 209P. Remington used a small diameter #57 primer years ago, and that may be what the seller was thinking of. Punch out a primer and measure the barrel diameter. If it's .240" it's a 209 size. The #57 was considerably smaller.

http://www.remington.com/products/am.../shotshell.asp

Get the latest Lyman Shotshell Reloading Handbook.
http://www.lymanproducts.com/lyman/publications/

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Old 07-14-2009, 07:18 PM
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I would throw all of them out and collect only the newer Winchester AA HS hulls.
They last a bunch longer than the other brands. Most 410 shells use different wads; so it is best to stick with one brand of hulls and one brand of wads; it is not like metallic reloading and you cannot just swap components at will.
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Old 07-14-2009, 07:23 PM
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You may also want to check out - shotgunworld.com and check their forum; plenty of good info
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Old 07-14-2009, 08:29 PM
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Remington has made a couple of different primers for the .410. The #69 primer was the same diameter as the 57*, but shorter. If they take the 57* diameter primer, I'd toss them. Remington also made a 209-size primer for the .410. I think it was called 209-410, but I could be mistaken on the label. If that's what the man was talking about, the 209P will work fine.

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Old 07-15-2009, 08:33 AM
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The Rem #97 primer was the one I used to use on the older Remington 410 hulls. It was a copper colored primer. It really pays to load 410's now. The new 3 inchers are 12 to 15 bucks a box. Unless you are shooting skeet or have a large supply of 2 1/2 inch hulls the 3 inch hulls are the way to go. You need all the shot you can get. The 410 hulls don't last as long as the larger gauges as they get soft and bulge when crimping. Ballistic Products has lots of 410 components. www.ballisticproducts.com .I too have a MEC 600 jr press in 410, as well as all the other gauge conversion kits. I have two model 42 Winchesters I load for.
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