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Old 04-05-2011, 10:09 AM
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Win. Model 12 Slide Release


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Hi All:

I just recently finished a thorough cleaning of a Win. Mod. 12 for a friend.
I had never worked with a mod. 12 before, but I followed an old manual and got thru it all with no problems. I was impressed. A terrificly solid shotgun. (especially the all steel receiver/action/trigger) Waaaah, I want one! ... LOL

Anyway, after I finished, and tested for function, I noticed that the slide lock does not release after firing, unless I held light pressure, or pushed lightly forward, on the forend. ... Is this normal with the Mod. 12?

I don't want to hand it back to my friend if I left a malfunction in there.

Everything else functions perfectly, with no drag or hang-ups of any sort.
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Old 04-05-2011, 10:51 AM
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The forend is under spring pressure, so a light forward pressure is required to let the release function. Between the forearm and magazine tube is a flat circular spring this is compressed slightly when the action is closed. If you press the release with out dropping the hammer the action will pop open due to the spring pressure.

During the firing cycle recoil helps the forearm move slightly forward and letting the action open.

Model 12's are well made and should last several lifetime. There was a lot of engineering that went into the 12 as Winchester had to build a pump gun without infringing on the Browning patent's.

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Old 04-05-2011, 12:17 PM
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Thanks jaguar,. It looks like I'm good to hand it over.

The cycling function of the slide release works perfectly. ie: When the hammer is cocked, the release can be pressed, and continue to cycle as long as one holds the release pressed in. .... Such as when emptying the magazine without firing.
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Old 04-05-2011, 04:25 PM
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The problem you describe is an actual engineered safety. In fact the way to determine how much a used model 12 has been shot is to dry fire it point at the ceiling and observe if the slide stays in place or if it falls slightly. I f it falls it has been shot ALOT. Even if the slide lock function does not work any longer it is still very safe to shoot and will still last several lifetimes. You stumbled onto a fact few know about. The model 12 is machined from billets of steel including the triggerguard and all components. Near all newer guns has cast potmetal trigger groups. The model 12 is a marvel of engineering and construction.
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Old 04-05-2011, 05:28 PM
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"The model 12 is a marvel of engineering and construction."

30-30, I couldnt agree more. As I worked my way thru all of those precision solid steel parts, I couldn't help but think what a terrific "working gun" this is for a lifetime of hunting pleasure, and an heirloom as well.

I wish I would have given these guns at least a bit of comparative study back when I bought my Rem.870 in the late 60s. I simply followed suit, as all of my buddies were buying the 870s. No complaints though, as my 870 has served me well. Just a little regret.

I honestly did ponder that the way the Model 12 slide release worked, that it was a safety type feature.
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Old 04-05-2011, 05:58 PM
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VERY normal. I've owned several, to include 20ga, 16ga, and 12ga. They all did it. I remember guys talking about the differences in the 870 and the M12. A lot of the guys liked the dual action bars of the 870 as opposed to the single action bar of the M12. Dunno if it was a moot point or not, I never had any troubles with my M12's.
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Old 04-06-2011, 05:22 AM
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I think the dual action bars was a marketing ploy for Remington and others. Funny thing though the Model 12 and Ithaca 37 have been around for decades before the 870 came out an there are many waterfowl hunters that won't trade the 12 for anything.

Please note the Ithaca 37 is made the same way, all machined, no plastic or alloy. And has been in production since 1937.

Yes I like Ithaca's
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Old 04-06-2011, 06:14 AM
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Ah yes, the Ithaca 37 ........ Sleek and Sweet!
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Old 04-06-2011, 06:48 AM
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Ah yes, had a M37 once. Liked it. My brother liked it more. Va ya con Dios. And I'll just hang on to my M12 and my M870 ... along with my Ithica M100 side by each 20ga.
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