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Old 08-22-2011, 12:40 PM
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Does anyone have experience with Remington #57 Shotshell Primers. I reload several thousand shotshells each year, but have only used the #209 Primers. I have been told #57s were used back when the shotshells were reloaded with fiber wads. Is there loading data available for using them with modern components (plastic wad, folded crimp, modern powder, etc.)? A reloading reference for them would be good. We are looking to use them in trap and the 4 gauges of skeet loads.
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Old 08-22-2011, 02:34 PM
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The Remington 57 primer was of a slightly different size, smaller diameter than the 209. Only the Remington shells used the #57, all others took the 209. You will have a difficult time finding the 57 size now.
I checked Bruno, Midway, and Midsouth none of the three carry the #57, only the 209.
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Old 08-22-2011, 07:01 PM
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Remington hasn't used the 57* size primer for 35 or more years. I still have some load data, it's just that the shells are no longer available.

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Old 08-23-2011, 06:25 AM
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I have a box of them in my collection and they fall out of the primer pockets of Gun Club hulls.
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Old 08-23-2011, 06:39 AM
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A friend who recently passed away had a large quantity of reloading supplies including #57 primers and I'm trying to determine if they would be safe to use with modern wads and powder and the recipe for them. He had an old reloading manual among the supplies that states the old #97 primers are interchangeable with the modern #209. It appears from the old manual that the #97s were used with plastic wads and the #57s were used with fiber wads.

For his recent reloading he was using 700X powder and plastic wads and since he also had several thousand 209 primers, he may or may not have still been using the old #57s. What are the characteristics of the old Remington hulls that can use the #57 primers. Perhaps there are some among the supplies he left behind.
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Old 08-23-2011, 11:29 AM
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The #57 primers were used only for old remington sp csaes that were plastic with a fiber "base" wad. The o.d. of the #57s is approx. .230" with the 209 & 97s being approx. .245". The book "Reloading For Shotgunners" edited by Robert S.L. Anderson has a few 1 1/4oz & 1 1/8 oz loads for the old style remington cases with a fiber base wad which is the only one that used #57 primers.
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Old 08-23-2011, 06:58 PM
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Not even all the old Remington cases with the fiber basewad used the 57* primer. The All-American used 209-size primers, as did some of the original Gun Club cases - which were nothing like the Gun Clubs of today.

What are the characteristics of the old Remington hulls that can use the #57 primers.
They would be the ones with the primer pocket too small to accept the 209 primer.

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Old 12-23-2013, 12:48 PM
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Remington 57 primers

There are 1000 Remington 57 primers available on Gun Broker, if anyone is interested.
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Old 12-24-2013, 11:23 AM
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I do have and have loaded #57 in Remington and UMC hulls for years. When the hulls can no longer be loaded, I hope I will be out of #57 primers. They will be worthless at that point.
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Old 12-30-2013, 09:35 PM
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I have some #57 and use them alot in Rem 410 hulls and like that is stated that they are smaller then the 209.I still have some 410 that take the 57 but have not loaded some for years.They all been change now to 209.All the 57 are now are for a collecter.If you do not have any old hulls to take them.
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Old 04-05-2014, 09:41 AM
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I still have a couple thousand #57, and the CCI version. I am down to maybe a hundred or so of the old SP cases now- Which wont last long enough to use up the primers, I'd think. Anyone out there have any of the old #57 SP cases they want to be rid of? PM me?...
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