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Old 10-04-2010, 05:48 PM
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anyone able to offer suggestions for loading and tweaking this critter ?
Step-father bought one at a gun show and now we have to figure out the best way to use this and the best loads to play with ( tough job but someone has to do it ).
My handgunning has never included long-range single-shots or bottleneck cartridges and I can already tell that there will be some adjustments needed - my .243 rifles don't exactly translate to handguns and my .41 and .44 mag experience doesn't exactly translate, either
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Old 10-04-2010, 07:45 PM
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From your comments, I presume the Encore barrel you bought is in a pistol configuration, perhaps a 15" model?

If so, expect muzzle blast and flash to be impressive, velocity to be down a bit from a rifle barrel, but other than that, it's still just a gun. You'll want a good LER scope and it's hard to go wrong with a Leupold. I have one on my 7/30 Waters (Contender) and while it does take some time to get used to finding the sight picture, it's done everything I could ask of it. The Bushnell Banner I have on a 30 Herrett works well, too.

Don't expect to fire this gun off-hand, unless you have forearms like Albert Pujols. Even then, they are meant to be shot with a front rest, improvised or otherwise. Beyond that, the recoil will be sharp and fast, but not heavy, if that makes any sense. You won't use a light "relaxed" grip when shooting this gun.

Have fun with it and let us know how it goes.
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Old 10-05-2010, 12:49 PM
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A guy I know picked up a Encore with a 45-70 Govt barrel on it. It is ported but that helps very little.

I shot it once and won't be doing so again. He shot it and has not shot it since. I can't imagine that caliber in a pistol.

Now for the 243. It shoudl make a dandy handgun. I am sure the recoil will be quick but not brutal. It will have a nice muzzle blast.

I have no experience in rifle handgun loadings but you can go to Hodgdon website and they have loading data for rifle handgun loads. I am sure that will get you started.

I met a old man at the rifle range one day shooting a Encore in 223. I was shooting a bolt action 30-06. We both were shooting at 100 yards. We went to retrieve our targets and he had shot a 1/2 inch 10 shot group with that pistol. My group was over twice that big. I said pretty good shooting for a pistol and laughed. He said it was not one of his better days of shooting.
I was truely impressed.

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Old 10-05-2010, 09:08 PM
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.243 Encore pistol load for Antelope

I just harvested a nice Colorado Antelope doe with a .243 Encore pistol. The load I used was Hordady SST 95 gr. Reloader 22 42.5 gr. avg 2468 fps. Although I'm not finished perfecting that load for a little better accuracy it did a great job on the Antelope doe at 165 yds. The groups on paper were at .75 for three shots and then a flyer.. The flyer was probably my fault but I will be doing some more testing before heading to Wy. for whitetail doe. Let us know what you come up with for loads.

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Old 10-07-2010, 01:53 PM
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I have a 243 Win in a XP, but my barrel twist is 1-8.
Yours is likely a slower twist and I use 105 grain VLD's.
H-4350 or Varget would be good choices depending on bullet weight.
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Old 10-26-2010, 03:19 PM
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anyone able to offer suggestions for loading and tweaking this critter ?
Step-father bought one at a gun show and now we have to figure out the best way to use this and the best loads to play with ( tough job but someone has to do it ).
My handgunning has never included long-range single-shots or bottleneck cartridges and I can already tell that there will be some adjustments needed - my .243 rifles don't exactly translate to handguns and my .41 and .44 mag experience doesn't exactly translate, either
If you want to get the most out of an Encore you need to go to Mike Bellm’s web site at: http://www.bellmtcs.com/store/index.php?cid=563. Mike is the Encore expert and his web site will provide you with everything you will need to turn your Encore into a top performer. Mike has articles on how to tune and reload for break action rifles, how to disassemble and tune the trigger mechanism with excellent pictures. In addition he provides the “Why” for just about everything he is telling you to do. The great thing about his site is that all this information is free.

Mike does sell tuning items like oversized hinge pin pins, reduced weight trigger springs, heavier locking springs and hammer springs all at very reasonable prices. Got a problem? Email him and he will respond in 24 hours typically

If for some reason I made an error in his address just Google him, Mike Bellm, TC Encores and he will come up. His web site needs to be set up as a favorite on the computer of every break action (TC, H&R, CVA) firearm owner.
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Old 11-03-2010, 09:46 AM
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I have had a couple .243 Handguns over the years. One of which was a 15" T/C Encore Handgun chambered for the .243 Winchester Cartridge. A really good friend of mine got this handgun originally and he wanted ONE load to use on Coyotes & Whitetail Deer. In the end I ended up loading 80gr. Speer Hot Core Spitzers with H-4895 Powder. This .243 Encore will group 5 of those handloads into 3/4" at 100 yards from the bench at an average muzzle velocity of 2912 FPS.

After I had the load all worked up and this Encore shooting good my friend allowed me to use it during a special anterless deer season one January. I took two Whitetail Does at a touch over 200 yards with the .243 Encore with the above load. The first was a bang / flop. The Doe was broadside and I placed the 80gr. Speer Hot Core Spitzer right behind the front shoulder mid way top to bottom. At the shot the doe collapsed and never moved.

The second doe was walking slowly at the shot and I messed up hitting her a little far back. She took off and sprinted for about 150 yards. When she stopped she was broadside and a second shot sealed the deal as she dropped in her tracks at the shot.

Bullet performance was good with both having quarter sized exit holes in the off side.

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Old 11-11-2010, 05:03 AM
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i wouldn't get too worried about working the gun over, just put a good scope on it, i use the burris pistol scopes and see how it shoots. i have several encore barrels, rifle and pistol and every one of them is a good shooter right out of the box! my only complaint is that my 45 colt barrel has an oversized chamber so brass life isn't great but it's a deer killing machine!!!
don't throw a bunch of money at it as it probably doesn't need it...
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Old 11-30-2010, 08:58 PM
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A guy I know picked up a Encore with a 45-70 Govt barrel on it. It is ported but that helps very little.

I shot it once and won't be doing so again. He shot it and has not shot it since. I can't imagine that caliber in a pistol.

Now for the 243. It shoudl make a dandy handgun. I am sure the recoil will be quick but not brutal. It will have a nice muzzle blast.

I have no experience in rifle handgun loadings but you can go to Hodgdon website and they have loading data for rifle handgun loads. I am sure that will get you started.

I met a old man at the rifle range one day shooting a Encore in 223. I was shooting a bolt action 30-06. We both were shooting at 100 yards. We went to retrieve our targets and he had shot a 1/2 inch 10 shot group with that pistol. My group was over twice that big. I said pretty good shooting for a pistol and laughed. He said it was not one of his better days of shooting.
I was truely impressed.

Darin
I have a contender barrel in 45-70 that I've shot quite a bit. Yes, it does recoil, but it is also fun to shoot. I have a 308 Win barrel for one of my Encore's it is ported, and removing the muzzle break or leaving it on the gun makes a noticable difference. It recoils about the same as the 45-70, but with the break on it seems to push back more that flip up. I have many Contender and Encore barrels and frames, they are all fun to shoot. Some are pistol barrels, 15" or shorter, some are rifle barrels, 22 inches and longer. I find all of these guns to be quite accurate. Most of them have scopes mounted on them.
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