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Old 06-21-2008, 06:47 PM
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I agree, there's no way you can get a more accurate out of the box gun than one of the Rem 40 XB's, and it is a single shot.

But if we are talking about a Traditional Single Shot Rifle ( two piece stock, Falling Block, Rolling Block, Top Brake etc. )

I think the Ruger # 1 would be the most accurate out of the box standard factory gun made to date.
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Old 06-21-2008, 06:57 PM
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Just goes to show you, the more information the OP can give the better the answers he would get! By the way, most of the 40XB's can also be ordered in a repeater version as well!
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Old 06-21-2008, 07:22 PM
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Hello, I love single shot rifles. But I'm one of those shooters that will tell you ,each of the #1 Rugers i've owned have been very poor shooters.I worked with these rifles,trying to get them to shoot as good as they looked but to no avail. One was a #1V 220Swift, best load, best day 1 1/2in group(not what I call varmint gun accuracy). The other was a medium sporter in 7x57 Mauser. Best load, best day 2 1/2 in groups. Seldom did this rifle maintain point of impact from one shooting session to the next and it had a tendency to vertical string shots like you wouldn't believe. I tried all the tricks (several recommended on this forum) but this rifle was the worst I've ever owned. It was a thing of beauty but pick it up; lousy balance, butt heavy to the extreme. Field shooting with a butt heavy rifle is a tough row to hoe. All that said ,I love single shot rifles. But I won't buy another #1 !!! See ya, Bill
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Old 06-21-2008, 08:08 PM
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Sorry to hear that you have had such problems with your # 1's, I have six of them and they will all shoot under 1 inch, my 1-V's will do under 1/2 inch. What would be your choice in a factory out of the box Traditional Single Shot Rifle ( two piece stock )
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I have also had quite a few troubles with Ruger #1's and poor accuracy. I'm talking 5" groups at 100 yards from a 22-250 with handloads. Thats the best it would do. Started out much worse. I have had better luck with Winchester/Browning 1885's though. Super accurate rifles.
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Old 06-22-2008, 07:22 AM
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Wow,
You guys are really having problems with your # 1's. There had to be some serious problems if the best you could get was 5 inch groups. I would have been on the phone to Ruger real fast if I had anything that bad.
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Old 06-22-2008, 09:48 AM
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>You guys are really having problems with your # 1's. There had to be some serious >problems if the best you could get was 5 inch groups. I would have been on the phone to >Ruger real fast if I had anything that bad.

I love the #1 but, sad to say, they have a well-deserved reputation for at best mediocre accuracy in some examples. A good friend bought one in .30-06 that was a gem. There was no load this rifle didn't like, and it shot everything extremely well. His pet handload would consistently put three shots into well under an inch at 100 yards.

Then he acquired brand new #1, number 2, in .270. It was absolutely pathetic. Nothing, and I mean nothing, would group under 3.5". Frustrated to the limit, he sent it back to Ruger, ad they rebarreled it, no charge. I was with him the day he got it back and took it to the range. Three different commercial loads, four handloads -- and it shot worse than before!

Fortunately, in the meantime he had read an article about the modification of drilling and tapping a hole in the forend hanger, allowing a screw to be installed so that varying amounts of pressure could be put on the barrel. Also fortunately, he has a well-equipped shop and the skills to do the mod on his own. The next trip to the range, we spent a brief time experimenting with varying screw settings and, voila! The thing began shooting like a champ.

The #1 is wonderful, strong, good-looking rifle, but Ruger should have long ago done something to address the inconsistency that allows some examples to be real dogs.
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hello single shot, To answer your question on my opinion on the best out of the box single shot Browning's B-78. My first is in 6mm rem,85 to95 grain bullets always go 1/4 to1/2 moa. even the Nosler partition 95gn goes under 1/2 and that's not what you'd call a target or varmint bullet. My second is a 7mm rem mag douglas barrel. Never shot a group over 1 in yet and I've used 140, 160, and 175gn loads.These two guns are pretty but that #1 light sporter in 7x57 was beautiful. see ya, Bill
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Old 06-24-2008, 06:37 AM
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Browning's B-78, most accurate out of the box rifles, Interesting. So far I haven't found anything better than my Ruger # 1's. It's hard to belive that I have six of them and they all shoot 1 inch or less 5 shot groups at 100 yds., with hand loads of course, when so many others have problems. I never shot a B-78 but now I may have to try one.
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The No.1 debates!

Folkes, I almost did not buy my Ruger No.1 because of several articles I found stating that the barrels wander after 3 shots or more. I bought one anyways as I liked the sleek looks and wanted a 26" barrel for ballistics and accuracy. My only regret is that now my friends constantly bug me trying to borrow it or wanting to buy it. To me the value of this .25-06 exceeds $4000.00 bucks as I would think I could not find one to shoot this well again. My only modification has been to have the trigger pull knocked down to 3.25 lbs.

I topped the gun off with a 6-18x Burris Fullfield scope with Peep Plex reticle and WOW!!! can this gun shoot. If it is not a tight group it my fault not the gun. With the loads I have worked up I finally settled on a zero at 410 yds. Just under 1" high at 400 yds. That keeps it within the kill zone from 0-500yds on a Pronghorn. Disappointing that with one click on my scope and its 1" right of center or one click back it is 1" left of center. At 400 yds it groups very well and consistently with groups as small as a quarter but never greater than a fifty cent piece. However I can not get good groups consistently with any factory ammo excepting Hornady Light Magnums and they shoot just as well as my hand loads.

Anyone that buys a No. 1 and does not like it just give me a yell and I may just buy it from you. I blew one chance of getting a pretty laminated .270 Win. No.1 from a friend but instead I helped him improve his guns performance with some minor corrections. Besides trigger pull it was all scope problems. Should have kept my mouth shut...LMAO........but we are friends still!
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No.1 equals Accuracy!

Folkes, I almost did not buy my Ruger No.1 because of several articles I found stating that the barrels wander after 3 shots or more. I bought one anyways as I liked the sleek looks and wanted a 26" barrel for ballistics and accuracy. My only regret is that now my friends constantly bug me trying to borrow it or wanting to buy it. To me the value of this .25-06 exceeds $4000.00 bucks as I would think I could not find one to shoot this well again. My only modification has been to have the trigger pull knocked down to 3.25 lbs.

I topped the gun off with a 6-18x Burris Fullfield scope with Peep Plex reticle and WOW!!! can this gun shoot. If it is not a tight group it my fault not the gun. With the loads I have worked up I finally settled on a zero at 410 yds. Just under 1" high at 400 yds. That keeps it within the kill zone from 0-500yds on a Pronghorn. Disappointing that with one click on my scope and its 1" right of center or one click back it is 1" left of center. At 400 yds it groups very well and consistently with groups as small as a quarter but never greater than a fifty cent piece. However I can not get good groups consistently with any factory ammo excepting Hornady Light Magnums and they shoot just as well as my hand loads.

Anyone that buys a No. 1 and does not like it just give me a yell and I may just buy it from you. I blew one chance of getting a pretty laminated .270 Win. No.1 from a friend but instead I helped him improve his guns performance with some minor corrections. Besides trigger pull it was all scope problems. Should have kept my mouth shut...LMAO........but we are friends still!
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The One That Got Away

The sad story follows.

IIRC,back in 1983, I was stalking the asiles of a well know gunshop in southern Maine(Kittery Trading Post).

In the "new gun" rack they had two Ruger #1V's in both 300 Win Mag and 7mm Rem Mag. I should have bought both of these weapons or at the least the 7mm.

Most people don't even know that Ruger had ever offered the #1V in these two calibers. Must have been for just a couple of years or so.

Since that day, have never seen or heard of anyone owning one of these offerings.

I ended up buying a Winchester Mod 70 XTR and was extremely happy with that weapon over the years,but everytime I hear of a Ruger #1V,I think of those two,standing side by side in the gun rack. ------pruhdlr
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pruhdlr,
Yes that is a sad story. I just checked the Ruger # 1 Group 1-V serial number records and they say that the 1-V in 300 Win Mag and 7 mm Rem Mag were only made from 1973 to 1978, checked the serial numbers listed for each caliber and only 8 are listed as known in 300 Win Mag and 13 are listed as known in 7 mm Rem Mag. Bet there hard to find today.
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Well, here's what Chuck Hawks has to say about the 1885 and the Ruger # 1's... :

http://www.chuckhawks.com/compared_b...5_rugerNo1.htm

I think that the idea of the screw under the bbl has some merit for you guys that are having troubles....

Personally, I have an 1885 in .223 and it's simply wonnerful...sleek, slim, makes a 28 inch octagonal bbl look normal, perfectly balanced, and shoots like Thor's hammer ... the trigger has been done ...and it will consistently group 5 inna dime sized hole at 100 yds if I manage to hold still ....and it's heavy enuff that sometimes I can see the squeaks blow up in the scope...

.... I would someday like to have a Ruger #1 in 221 fireball to play with..... or another 1885 in it ...
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