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Old 04-16-2010, 06:12 PM
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Match Grade Machine makes barrels for Encores and Contenders.
They may have the worst quality control and they do have the worst customer service I have ever dealt with.
On February 20th I ordered a 30-06 barrel for my encore that was in stock. I received an email it had shipped.
It was marked 30-06 and I tried in on my Encore. Since it was 27 inches and I wanted a 16.5 inch barrel I sent it to Wilson Combat (my local gunsmith) and told them to cut the barrel. On the 11th of March I got an email from Wilson Combat there was a problem.
The gunsmith said it was NOT a 30-06 but a 25-06.
I called MGM and they said to send it back and they would look at it. MGM sent a UPS shipping label to Wilson Combat to have it sent from WC straight back to MGM.
On 30 March I emailed MGM and asked them the status of the barrel. They replied that they received it on 19 March but didnt know who it belonged to (yeh right). MGM said We will rebuild it and ship it by Friday (which would have been 2 April). I called them on Thursday the 1st and they said Oh, we meant next Friday (meaning April 9nd).
Well I called again today and the receptionist said I think it shipped yesterday (15 April) and Ill send you tracking number.
I still dont have the tracking number.
So, Buyer Beware when dealing with MGM.
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Old 04-17-2010, 02:48 AM
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Why didn't you just have MGM cut the barrel down for you? I know they (used to?) do that sort of thing and it's not like it needed to be fitted to your action. I hate to derail your rant, because I know how frustrating it can be when you do not get what is promised, but the overwhelming response for MGM is very positive. A lot of folks go to MGM instead of Midway or the T/C custom shop because MGM typically gets the customer what they were looking for a lot faster. Sounds like in this case they didn't take enough time to get it done right, the first time.

There is no excuse for the incorrect stamping on the barrel. Do you know if MGM cut the chamber/rifling, or if it came that way from T/C? I'm wondering how it wasn't immediately obvious to you that it had a 25 caliber bore, instead of a 30? When you tried it on your gun, didn't you look down the bore? Seems like it would have jumped out at you how small it was, since the difference between 25 and 30 is quite noticeable, even to the naked eye. Just wondering out loud.
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Old 04-17-2010, 09:10 AM
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If a person is having this kind of problems with a place that cahrges what they do, I would find some one else. Any Suggests?

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Old 04-17-2010, 09:46 PM
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Why didn't you just have MGM cut the barrel down for you? I know they (used to?) do that sort of thing and it's not like it needed to be fitted to your action. I hate to derail your rant, because I know how frustrating it can be when you do not get what is promised, but the overwhelming response for MGM is very positive. A lot of folks go to MGM instead of Midway or the T/C custom shop because MGM typically gets the customer what they were looking for a lot faster. Sounds like in this case they didn't take enough time to get it done right, the first time.

There is no excuse for the incorrect stamping on the barrel. Do you know if MGM cut the chamber/rifling, or if it came that way from T/C? I'm wondering how it wasn't immediately obvious to you that it had a 25 caliber bore, instead of a 30? When you tried it on your gun, didn't you look down the bore? Seems like it would have jumped out at you how small it was, since the difference between 25 and 30 is quite noticeable, even to the naked eye. Just wondering out loud.
I don't have a clue where the barrel was chambered. When I asked about it being miss marked the reply was "well these things just happen". I asked to speak with a supervisor or someone else and they said NO.
As far as not noticing it was a .25 I didn't try to chamber a round and maybe because it was a heavy barrel the gunsmith didn't notice until it was cut.
MGM - The barrel was a heavy contour stainless and it cost $408
TC looks to run about $306 and from a friend they have a good reputation

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Old 04-18-2010, 09:24 AM
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Never have had any dealings with these guy since the break up of Virgin Valley, seems very poor/sad way to do busniess. Next time try Bullberry.
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Old 05-15-2010, 09:19 AM
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I've had two custom barrels made by MGM, both were top quality and highly accurate. Mine were .357 magnum barrels built on Shilen .358" 1:14 twist rifle blanks. I waited 4 weeks for one, five for the other. I could not be more pleased.
If you read Specialty Pistol forums, there are very few complaints about MGM there.
Sorry the OP had trouble, but MGM is a good company with high quality barrels delivered on time. Bullberry is good too, just be prepared to wait six months or more.
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Old 05-17-2010, 06:09 AM
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Its best to try the item before you modify it. Ive had the same problem and once its modified the maker might not want to take it back.
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Old 05-17-2010, 09:25 PM
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i have two barrels from mgm one 27" bull 50 alaskan and a 12" 500 linebaugh bull barrel,both are very accurate and would buy from them again.had no problems with any of the people that i talk to their.
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Old 05-19-2010, 06:37 AM
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Wow what a different experience than mine. I have dealt with Kerry and Jeff for years. Bought several barrels and would continue to do biz with them until either they quit or I do.
Why in the world would you take a barrel from them, not notice it is several calibers too small and send it to someone else to cut down and recrown.
Every barrel I bought from them required that I filled out a written spec sheet stating length, material, profile, desired chambering, twist rate, type of gun etc. It would seem pretty obvious to figure out who is at "fault" and fix this.

FYI the suggestion to 'try Bullberry' next time...makes me laugh. Have you ever bought anything from Fred Smith. The man has no concept of time, will tell you how he is going to do your barrel regardless of what you want and wrote the book on poor customer service. My last Bullberry barrel took nine months to deliver and came to CO via Indiana from Utah.
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Old 05-21-2010, 01:41 PM
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FYI the suggestion to 'try Bullberry' next time...makes me laugh. Have you ever bought anything from Fred Smith. The man has no concept of time, will tell you how he is going to do your barrel regardless of what you want and wrote the book on poor customer service. My last Bullberry barrel took nine months to deliver and came to CO via Indiana from Utah.[/QUOTE]

Wow...Sorry to hear that, I have never had any trouble dealing with Fred on a time basis or just chanting on the phone.
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Old 05-21-2010, 07:34 PM
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FYI the suggestion to 'try Bullberry' next time...makes me laugh. Have you ever bought anything from Fred Smith. The man has no concept of time, will tell you how he is going to do your barrel regardless of what you want and wrote the book on poor customer service. My last Bullberry barrel took nine months to deliver and came to CO via Indiana from Utah.
Wow...Sorry to hear that, I have never had any trouble dealing with Fred on a time basis or just chanting on the phone.[/QUOTE]

If I thought "chanting" would speed Fred along, I'd give it a try, but I seriously doubt that would make a dang bit of difference. My experience with him is that he really couldn't care less about when he told you your barrel would be done, or that your hunt is coming up in a few weeks. In addition to my very unsatisfactory dealings with Bulberry, a friend of mine got so frustrated that he canceled his order, went to MGM and got his barrel faster than the last "promise" Fred had given him.

Sometimes success makes people do strange things or turns them into indifferent and apathetic business owners. I have not witnessed that from MGM, but it certainly seems to be the case at Bulberry.
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