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Old 12-11-2011, 06:12 PM
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the guy at the store handed me a box of remmington 35 cal rounds, for my 35 whelen. the gun is new and i didnt notice the difference. they were shot through the whelen. Does anyone know if this damaged the rifling in the barrel, or anuthing else? Thanks for any info, by the way!
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So you shot .35 Rem rounds though a .35 Whelen? Interesting. How did the used cases end up looking?

I know a guy that shot some .30-06 rounds accidentally through his Whelen recently. No obvious bad things other than a terrible group.
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Old 12-11-2011, 06:54 PM
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didnt have my reading glasses, and i thought the guy at the store knew what i needed. I've never bought them before, and I didnt know!
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Old 12-11-2011, 06:55 PM
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do you think I'll need a new barrel?
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How did they shoot? How many times did you shoot? What did the cases end up looking like?
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Old 12-11-2011, 07:01 PM
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shot about 12 times, bullets went no telling where, mis-fired about 15% of the time. didnt notice anything odd with the caseings. i did notice more kick w/ the whelen bullets. But even after i changed to the right bullets, its not accurate at 50 yrds.. i'm thinking it could be the cheap tasco scope i put on it for the weekend, or i may have damaged the rifling in the barrel.. i dont know?
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You seriously shot a WHOLE BOX of 35 Remington through a 35 Whelen??

Weren't you a little curious when the first couple of cases came out in a sleek, new, straight-walled configuration?!

Your gun didn't blow up and the bullets apparently made it into the rifling, despite about a MILE of freebore, so you're probably OK. What make/model of gun was it and how many rounds did you really fire before you figured out something was way, WAY wrong?

I doubt 12 rounds of the wrong ammo messed up your bore. A cheap Tasco scope can ruin any shooting trip. Were you hitting the paper at 50 yards with the correct ammo?
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Old 12-11-2011, 07:10 PM
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the gun is a brand new H&R 35. I didnt figure out something was really wrong until it mis fired. The casings looked fine.
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Old 12-12-2011, 06:37 AM
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I doubt if you hurt anything. .35 Rem is loaded pretty mild.

The cases must have come out of the gun darn-near straight. Shouldn't be much neck left, if any.

Clean it well, and check the label more carefully next time
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thanks for the info.. it sounds like i'm lucky it didnt blow up in my face!
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Probably unlikely with that combination. But, yes, it can happen, especially if the shorter round has a much larger bullet diameter. Since they are the same and the .35 Rem is loaded to lower pressures, then a little gas leakage through the action is probably about the worst you could have expected.
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I don't know that there was much danger of it blowing up in your face, given that you weren't shooting a bullet that was too large. I'm just surprised that you got any of them to light off in the first place. With a single-shot action, I would have expected those too-small cases to rattle around a bit and drop so far into the chamber that the firing pin would not have a chance of hitting the primer hard enough to ignite the charge. I mean, the case/rim diameter isn't all that different, but the shoulder on your 35 Whelen chamber is .400" further forward than the 35 Remington. I would expect it to be dang near impossible to get even one round to go off...but clearly they did. Interesting!
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i just talked to a gunsmith, he says, it wouldnt have messed up the barrel, but it may have messed up something inside.. and he'd need to look at it.
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Old 12-12-2011, 07:40 AM
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i just talked to another gunsmith, he says, steele barrel, soft led bullet, it wouldnt damage anything!
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It's unlikely that the barrel is harmed. The poor accuracy you're getting now with the proper rounds is probably a result of copper fouling. The slugs may have been entering the bore cocked and scraped off copper as the rifling forced them to straighten out. Look for some yellow shiney deposits with a lite shined into the barrel. A good copper cleaner will get it out but it may take a while.
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I believe that I'd feel deserving of a free box of .35 Whelen from the shop that sold the Rems to me as well. A he** of a lot less expensive than what they might have caused by their mistake (not exempting OP from some blame as well). Not everyone is an experienced shooter after all. We all started some where (didn't we?? )

I am for certain glad nothing more than a terrible grouping actually happened!!
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Boy, I'm real surprised any of them fired, I have two H&R 35 Whelens, I tried two different 35 Rem handloads in both chambers, there's nearly " between the head stamp and the chamber mouth, it's that far into the chamber!
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Extractor must have caught it.
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Must be a real tight extractor, mine dropped right past it, didn't even slow down!
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I believe that I'd feel deserving of a free box of .35 Whelen from the shop that sold the Rems to me as well. A he** of a lot less expensive than what they might have caused by their mistake (not exempting OP from some blame as well). Not everyone is an experienced shooter after all. We all started some where (didn't we?? )

I am for certain glad nothing more than a terrible grouping actually happened!!
I believe that I'd be way too embarrassed to go in and demand a new box of ammo if I had shot any of it in the wrong gun. If I had shot many rounds, I would not even post it on the internet.

How can one be so "entitled" to being looked after, that you could blame the store clerk for this error. This was a very bad mistake by the gun owner. Hopefully it has been a "cheap" lesson, and next time the OP will make sure he knows what he needs before he goes into the store, and what he is getting before he leaves.

Wow.
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