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Originally Posted by MontyF
Guess I'm curious what the options are other than a range finder. I figure I'm pretty good at range estimation but can be fooled easily depending on light and whether the target is higher or lower than I am.
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first off it depends on the hunter and how he chooses to hunt. by that i mean is he moving about while looking for a long range oppurtunity. many western hunters use this method. the
other method would be from a stationary location where the surrounding area can be watched. most eastern hunters use this method as usually thats the only way it can be done there.
assuming the latter method is used regardless of location a range card can easily be made. it requires an educated guess as to the distance, then actual shooting at the rock,
tree stump or whatever has been chosen. simply write down the required scope change and
repeat that on different targets untill you have enough information for that location.
of coarse the time to do all this is in the off season. its also fun and very good practice.
weve done the same thing years back with our large military coincidence rangefinder.
its too big and bulky to pack in on every trip to some of our locations. so we made range cards using the rangefinder and confirming data with actual shooting. which is always best to do anyway. its a once and done situation for that specific location.
it worked well enough for me to take my only pa black bear. first round hit at 700 yds which
put enough hurt on him to allow for a follow up finishing shot. i was 70 at the time and had
heart surgery 7 months prior. needless to say i didnt drag it out.
alaska man would be pleased to know i was using a 7x300 weatherby. but probably not pleased i was also using an inferior bullet.

now based on this information am i reccomending not having or using a rangefinder?
no im not as it is a valuable tool to own. but it can be done without one very affectivly.
i consider most of the lazer rangefinders on the market today as being unreliable.
that includes my own swarovski. apperently several of the very pricey models such as the vectrinix are the exception.
as for the uphill/downhill angles thats a different subject entirly.
a 1000 yd distance at a 25 deg angle needs to have cousine input before dialing the scope
for the shot. the required elevation change would be considerably less than required
for a flat 1000yd shot.