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Old 12-02-2001, 05:08 PM
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I recently purchased a very nice pre-'64 Winchester Model 100 in .308 Win caliber.  Does anyone know when I can obtain a copy of the owners manual or tell me how to properly clean and maintain this fine little rifle?  Any help you could provide would be greatly appreciated!!  Thanks in advance!  Stumpy
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Old 12-02-2001, 06:41 PM
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Hi, Stumpy:
  Try starting here.
<a href="http://www.usracmfg.com/manuals.htm

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Old 12-02-2001, 07:31 PM
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Thanks, but I have tried U.S. Repeating Arms and they have nothing on the Model 100.
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Old 12-02-2001, 08:24 PM
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Seems to me that there was a recall on them 10-15 years ago. The firing pin could break &amp; they'd go full auto. &nbsp;Anyone remember anything about that?

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Old 12-03-2001, 03:33 AM
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Hi Jack!

The recall was '90-'91. &nbsp;The firing pin tip could break and lodge in the hole, causing the next round to go off before the bolt was closed. &nbsp;I guess it blew up more than one gun with these &quot;slam fires&quot;. &nbsp;My firing pin has been replaced.

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Old 12-30-2001, 04:27 PM
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In reference to dissassembly and cleaning, Good luck!!!
I just purchased a minty clean 100 in .308, circa 1966.
Of course ther was no manual to be found, and the previous owner was not as contientious(that spelled right?) &nbsp;After about an hour of messing with it, I figured out how to dissassemble the entire rifle. &nbsp;Just give yourself about an hour of uninterupted time and you'll figure it out. &nbsp;Once ya get it apart it is very reminiscant of an M1A, if you know about those.
&nbsp; &nbsp;Now, how do you find out if the darn recall has already been performed or not. &nbsp;Any help appreciated!
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Old 12-31-2001, 03:39 AM
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Hi M141a!

Call the special Winchester Model 100 Recall number at 1-800-852-5734 and CALL NOW. &nbsp;When you finally get through, and it took me about 1/2 a day, they can tell you over the phone if the repair has been done. &nbsp;Have your serial number ready and that's all you need.

Another gentleman from Florida just asked me the same thing because his father's Model 100 in .308 just blew up in his face this past weekend! &nbsp;No serious injuries but he sent me digital pictures and it was not pretty.

Stumpy
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Old 01-01-2002, 04:37 AM
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A little pricy, but e-bay has an original Model 100 instruction booklet for sale via auction right now; http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&amp;item=1054411138
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Old 01-02-2002, 06:08 AM
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Doesn't the gunnuts section have an exploded drawing of the model 100? I couldn't find a book or instructions when I had mine, so I just used the drawing. The only tricky part is that the rear most section of the receiver stays put in the stock when your dissassembling it. This way you can clean from the right end. doug
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Old 01-02-2002, 03:50 PM
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Stumpy, got your message, thanx... &nbsp;to all those with the model 100 blues... talked to the rep.at winchester recall hotline. &nbsp;According to win. they will replace to firing pin as per the recall at no cost to the consumer(me &amp; you). &nbsp;They will send you the firing pin for you to take to your conpetent gunsmith, then reimburse you for the cost of the g'smith's service,(or) you send them your rifle and their factory gumsmiths perform the repair.
&nbsp; &nbsp;Winchester also HIGHLY RECOMMENDS that the rifle not be fired if you are not sure if the recall was performed. &nbsp;Total cost to the consumer is the UPS or FED-EX shipping
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Old 01-02-2002, 07:02 PM
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41 fan... the secret,if you want to call it that, I found was not to remove the mag.until after you loose the screw at the rear of the triggerguard. &nbsp;When you release the mag., ya have to hold the bolt all the way to the rear to remove the trigger guard,and then you should be able to remave the entire barrelled action from the stock. &nbsp;Hope this helps.


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Old 01-16-2002, 03:13 PM
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When you get the bolt out of the gun, take it apart and look at the firing pin. If it has a wide flat portion midway in it, then it is the new replacement pin. If on the other hand, the pin is round from front to back it is the original pin.

What I heard was the problem with the firing pin was the shoulder on the pin, where it entered the front of the bolt, would peen over and stick all the way foreward &nbsp;in the front of the bolt. This made it fire on closing before the lugs had rotated to the closed, battery position. The new firing pin and cam pin that it comes with eliminate this problem.
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Old 01-16-2002, 06:25 PM
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Grizzzzzzz....
&nbsp; You're right on the money! &nbsp;Called the Recall Hotline
1-800-852-5734... I gave them my s.n. and they accessed their data base right over the phone. &nbsp; They said the recall was never done on mine...
&nbsp; I removed the firing pin, sent it to Ill.... that was 2 weeks ago... &nbsp;when I get the pin back supposedely 2 weeks after that they send a check for &#3620.00 to cover the g&quot;smith charges...
&nbsp;Don't know any of 'em that work that cheap!!!
&nbsp;Still all in all, I'm making &#3620.00 on a rifle I traded to a gun store for a beat up F.N. &quot;hi-power&quot;.



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Old 01-21-2002, 10:18 PM
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HOLY COW! *You guys scared the #### out of me! *I didn't know about the model 100 recall. *The last time I fired mine (.243) once it fired two shots with one pull of the trigger. *Sort of unnerved me and the range officer. *They looked at it and decided it was safe to shoot. *I don't remember if I have shot it since or not but you can bet I will not now! *I have been through the the whole gamit of trying to find drawings, parts, disassembly info also. *Gave up on USRA. *

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Old 01-22-2002, 03:29 AM
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All this reminds me of a horror story. When I was with Win-Wes I helped put on the sight-in day at the Macon, Georgia Gun Club. After everybody was finished, I pulled out a new Mod 100 carbine in .308 Win to sight in. Loaded the clip, jacked a round in, settled on the bench, and squeezed the trigger.....it dumped all 4 rounds, rock and roll!
The Mod 100 rifles were, and are, great firearms....with the exception of three problems. The firing pin problem thats been discussed (mainly due to having to dry fire the empty gunto uncock it), the problems on the disconnecter on the trigger on a soft pull, and the fact that some of the cocking handles flew off due to a poor weld. Once these are cleared up, you have a fine rifle/carbine!
What killed the gun was the short action. At the time it was put on the market, the Rem Auto in .30-06 was the cult gun. I have found that, on a hole, the 100 guns were more accurate than the Rem auto. You can glass under the forearm screw and float the barrel and tighten up the group. Always be sure up return the forearm screw the same with unglassed firearms. Different tightness can shift the group a little. It best to blow out the barreled action with Gun Scrub or brake cleaner than take the thing apart. Use the minimum oil in the action.
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Old 01-22-2002, 12:53 PM
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Is there any such thing as a synthetic stock for a winchester model 100, 243 cal. If so where would one be found.
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Old 01-22-2002, 03:58 PM
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*Hey guys... * Just got my Recall firing pin back from Olin/Win. *The difference between the old and the new is the shape...
*The new one is flat in the center of the shaft, the old one is round thru and thru... It also comes with a new retainer or guide for the pin, *you nave to dissemble the bolt to put the guide in... Just a pin on the side of the bolt. *Took all of about 10 min.
*If you don't send your rifle out to be done, it took a whopping 2 1/2 week to get everything to Olin and back. *Plus a day before the pin arrived I recieved the check for &#3620.00 for my troubles... *Thanks to Olin that's another can of 4064. *Anyone who has Q's or prob.'s *I'd be happy to lend a backyard g'smith's ear.. E-mail me..

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Old 01-22-2002, 04:27 PM
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Hey Guys!

Thanks for all the help and interesting conversation. &nbsp;This is a highly enjoyable forum, unlike so many of the other chat rooms out there!

Two things - after all the problems I've heard, I've decided to semi-retire my Model 100 to occasional trips to the gun club. &nbsp;I may even sell it in time because I just bought a new Browning BAR in .308 this weekend to use for hunting. &nbsp;

Secondly, the gentleman who recently bought the Model 100 Instruction Manual (for &#3685 on eBay!!!) has agreed to make me a xerox copy for an Andrew Jackson, delivered. &nbsp;Anyone interested in a copy of my copy for xerox cost and postage after I get it? &nbsp;If so, let me know at &quot;[email protected]&quot;.

Thanks again for all the help!!

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Old 01-28-2002, 04:06 PM
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&nbsp;Hey back again with more good news... Put the new pin in and went down to the range... &nbsp;This little old rifle can shoot! Did the normal sighting in rigors at 100, then just went to play around at 200... boy oh boy was I suprised by a 3 shot group with 168gr. Sierra GK sp. that can be completely covered with a quarter. NO JOKING! &nbsp;As soon as I get the camera working I'll put a pix. up! &nbsp;
&nbsp;Hope anyone that owns one of these Great rifles has the same results....
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Old 02-10-2002, 12:44 PM
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Man am I glad I found this forum and topic! &nbsp;I had just picked up a nice Win 100 in .308 at the local gun show. &nbsp;Someone there mentioned this rifle had a recall for a potential 'slam fire' &nbsp;condition. &nbsp;This was after I bought it and was walking around!! &nbsp;Anyhow all of your information saved my bacon. &nbsp;Called the hot line and sent off my old firing pin. &nbsp;It had started to peen over. &nbsp;Hopefully the new one is on its way back to me. &nbsp;Without your help I would still be wondering what to do next. &nbsp;Glad to be part of the community. &nbsp;Thanks, think we've saved a fine old rifle.
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