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Old 12-24-2011, 03:16 PM
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I'm still on the 9.3 kick. How about a RCM or a full length Ruger variant? That would be a snot kicking rifle. I think the RCM would be the most practical for me.
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Old 01-04-2012, 06:24 PM
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Go big 9.3/ 378 wetherby or why not 366 cody (30 cody necked up) those would be the snot kickers if you ask me. I would go the other way 8x64 Brenneke or 358/376 styer (9.3 brenneke shotrened and necked up.) of course you could just go 9.3 brennek its on par with the highly vaunted 375 H&H in a standard action
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Old 01-04-2012, 09:03 PM
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I found that I can form a .416 caliber wildcat out of a .375 Ruger virgin brass case in one pass through my Hornady F.L. die with the elliptical expander. You should be able to iron in a longer neck, more taper, and do your own wildcat. The royal pain in the A@#$ here is getting the first three cases to send back for your own custom F.L. sizing die. I could send you three or four of my 10.6mm Boer fired cases. Then when you chamber your rifle to your new reamer's dimensions, you could neck down to 9.3 mm leaving a false shoulder for your new datum point, and produce three blown out, fired cases, to send back to your die maker. If I sent you three from my .35 cal. case forming die stage, then you could just neck up with a Hornady elliptical expander, but you would have to seat the bullet out against the lands for temp. head space. FWIW, my case volume is right on with the 9.3 x 64 Brenneke, which is hard to come by. I believe the factory Ruger 375 neck is already too short, and the 9.3 neck would be even shorter. I don't see a 9.3mm wildcat in my series, but I'll try and help you out. PM me and maybe we can set up something. My wildcat's case volume is right up to the necked up 300 Win. Mag. which is longer than the Ruger. So the same bullet must be seated deeper, in the Winnie. I noted that the Speer 9.3 bullet does not have a cannelure, so a good long neck seems to be the way to get good neck tension, in what's going to be a rather heavy recoiling rifle. In my own load developments, the .416 cal. 350 gr. Speer Mag. Tip is growing on me, day by day. My G.S. remarked today that he had sent out a couple of 416 Barrett's recently, with one in twelve twists. Mine is a one in fourteen, so my wildcat may not stabilize the 450 gr. Hornady Match bullets. I'll really be pushing to get 2250 fps., with this telephone pole length bullet.
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Old 01-09-2012, 05:33 PM
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Carpooler could you use 375 Ruger basic? I was thinking on that before i started my 35WI and thought it would be a slick set up and not being a stinker but the Brenneke brass is not as hard to find as some believe. RWS makes it and Graff and Sons stocks it albeit a little more money the information i gleaned from a lot of asking and reading enough articals on the Brenneke to choke a horse that you can get a lot of loads out of the brass so you get a better return on the investment. The Brenneke was going to be the other parent case before reality and my wife stepped in still I might just go and get a CZ 550 American in 9.3x62 and have it reamed out to the Breneke. the hard part would be where to hide a 12th gun in a 8 gun locker
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Old 01-10-2012, 10:30 AM
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Mr. H.,
Yes, you could. I paid about $500 for my case forming die set from Hornady. But this was money well spent. I ordered it to come down in std. caliber steps to 8mm. So it simplifies greatly my series of wildcats on this case. It's 2.6" long, just like the 375 Ruger. I now have the original 8mm and the newbie .416, in Mauser M-98 military actions. My next one will either be a 375 or a 458. The 450 will require a new reamer and Go Gauge, from PT&G, as my taper eliminates any shoulder above the .416 caliber. The present taper only ripples the brass at the 450 sizer. With a case trimmer pilot set for 9.3mm, and a handful of my tapered cases, you could put together something pretty quick. I never even sent any cases back to Hornady for my .416 F.L. die. We sent some dimensions I took off of a cut back (-.300") Lyman 416 Rigby F.L. die, back by phone. Real rocket science here, Ha! One case neck formed with the expander button, and one case neck formed without it. Shoot me a contact for your G.S. and I'll set something up, if you desire? My G.S. used my 8mm reamer and Go gauge, and then used his own .416 neck throat reamer to make up the double chamber. Everything is dead on, and both headspace on the same rimless datum point. The neck throater doesn't modify this head spacing.

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I'm guessing that no one would put as much (Schuler's) taper into a wildcat case as I have. So if you jam the bullet into the lands, you should be able to then fireform your three cases. But I went for the most reliably chambering round that I could design, for the CRF M-98 military action. In the .416, I do believe that I've created the true "Baby 416 Rigby", for the std. Mauser action, with a couple of grains more capacity than the belted Taylors, and a better (half inch long) neck. Believe me or not, this 416 came about as pure serendipity. I was just necking up my 8mm with it's 3/8th's inch long neck, and stumbled into the Rigby's. Also, I believe that your CZ is a CRF action. But although it's longer than the military Mausers, it will like long tapered cases, over short fat ones. The CRF's don't eject, until the bolt is all the way back, so you aren't compromising the speed of your bolt throw.
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Old 01-14-2012, 03:29 PM
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A G.S i wish. No I am having Pac Nor twist my 35 W.A.I on and set every thing up. The advantage of using a 700 action. But when it comes time and I do build a custom; when, I don't know I would need a good gun smith so would you know of any one in the pacific NW would be indebted. Also I like the way the shells turned out whats the recoil like out of your gun dose it rattle your bones I would imagine so.
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Old 01-23-2012, 12:28 PM
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Mr. Habeger, PM me and I'll give you a couple names. But it does matter whether you are right or left handed. The Howas and Vanguards are cheap, but your G.S. needs a lathe set up for metric threading, and these two are right hand only. CZ is a better deal, but while they say there's a link to a left hand shroud safety for the 550 Americans, I haven't yet found it. With the common U.S. stuff, you get what you pay for.
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