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Old 03-08-2016, 04:22 PM
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Henry vs Marlin JM in 45/70


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Guys I'm awaiting the arrival of my new to me Marlin 1895 45/70 JM with a 22 inch barrel ...now i mentioned to my dealer about the Marlin that will be transfered through his FFL ... He seemed interested asks if i had pic.s , I did , he looked it over and asked me if i was sure it was a JM .. I said yes ,,, (its odd after 10 yrs of getting transfers to him this most attention he ever gave any long gun i ever transfered through him)
He said he had a new Henry 45-70 coming in and asked if i would be interested in a trade ..
I told to wait till the Marlin comes in and we will talk...

Being I know nuthin about the Henry 45/70 . I have done a little research online and they seem solid ..

Have you fellows had any problems with Henry 45/70 carbines ?



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Old 03-08-2016, 06:58 PM
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He want's your Marlin because he knows it's a better rifle than the Henry.
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Old 03-08-2016, 07:27 PM
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Very nice wood on that 1895! I really like my Marlin 1895's. I don't know anything about the Henry rifles.

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Old 03-09-2016, 12:26 AM
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If it were me there is no way I would trade a nice Marlin like that for any Henry.
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Old 03-09-2016, 06:32 AM
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Like all dealers, he's out to make a buck. I personally think you'd be nuts to give up the Marlin. I might own a Henry, they have some decent feedback, but I'd never give up that Marlin for it. You'd lose on that deal.
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Old 03-09-2016, 06:51 AM
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This will be my third 1895SS i have owned .. The first one I traded off , 2nd was a keeper .. I was forced to sell becuase of a iliness .. This one is the replacement .. I more than likely keep the Marlin and sell the scope ... This one is used .. But it is a JM. . and i lucked up to get it on a trade and boot ..
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Old 03-09-2016, 12:20 PM
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Great looking wood on that Marlin. No way would I trade it for a Henry. You have the winner, In MHO keep it.

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Old 03-09-2016, 06:36 PM
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He want's your Marlin because he knows it's a better rifle than the Henry.
That is only a personal opinion. I don't have a .45/70 in either one. But, I have a Henry in .30/30 and had a Marlin. I still have the Henry and really like it. Both are good firearms, I'd take either of them before I bought a Winchester. But, I like my Savage 99's more then either of them. Everyone has their preferences, Savage happens to be mine.

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Old 03-25-2016, 08:24 PM
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I didn't make the trade ..,JM Marlins are just hard to beat
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Old 03-26-2016, 12:45 AM
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I didn't make the trade ..,JM Marlins are just hard to beat
I think you made the right decision.
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Old 03-26-2016, 07:39 AM
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the quality of henrys stinks. as does new marlins. good choice on the jm. ihave seen first hand buyers at gun shops paying for a used marlin close to that of a new one. current ones are ruff actions gritty and corcse with machine marks. I have a 444 from the 80s. would not sell it for any price.
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Ditto's here breathing a sigh of relief that you made the right choice! VERY nice wood on that '95 too! The Henry's I have seen and handled did not impress me in the least. Their 22's, I would buy... the centerfires seemed kinda cheesy and handled clunky, and were unusually heavy. The 'Golden Boy' versions gaudy finish looks like a pimp's gun.... KEEP THAT MARLIN.
( PS.... the new Marlins I have checked also have the open sights installed about 10 to 15 degrees to the right of vertical on the barrel, also. 'RemLin's with Gremlins' )
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Old 04-28-2016, 03:08 AM
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Great decision to keep the Marlin 1895. Very nice looking rifle too. Congrats!

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Old 04-28-2016, 04:15 AM
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I have a Marlin 1895 Guide Gun, love it.
The most negative thing I hear about the Henry's is the tube loader ( like a .22 cal. rifle).
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Old 04-28-2016, 05:48 AM
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I saw a new model Henry 45-70 the other day online. This one has a 22" octagon barrel and case color receiver and forend cap. Looks to run $175-$200 more than the similar round barrel 22" 45-70. Looks decent enough.
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Old 04-28-2016, 06:57 AM
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bras action Henry 45-70

i am leary of it. I don't think it can handle the pressure of 45-70 hi-po rounds.
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Well, perhaps a look at the article below might help explain both the tube feed/loading and whether the Henry action is "strong" enough. As far as I know, neither Marlin or Henry specifies what pressures they say their rifles will accept with reloads. Most people I know that own 45-70s understand the 3 levels commonly considered in making 45-70 ammo; that loaded to typical low pressures, that loaded to +P as in Buffalo Bore and other semi-custom loadings and those loaded for top tier pressures in stronger actions such as single shots or bolt actions.

As I was interested myself, I tried to research the Henry specifically (for the record, I've owned 3 45-70s myself). As I figured, their web site makes no mention of pressures, so I'm left to believe it's virtually the equal of the Marlin (1972 and newer). The article below is from a site with a lot of useful information and gun tests available and I was pleased to see that they actually used both Buffalo Bore and Garrett ammo in their testing (along with some tamer, typical loadings)

So, while I'm in no position to recommend the Henry (which I do not own) over my 1895G, I see the rifle as a viable alternative especially as the older JM Marlins continue to climb to somewhat unreasonable prices, much higher than just a few years ago. Everyone likes what they like and should buy accordingly. But If I was to be in the market again for another lever gun in 45-70, I'd certainly consider the Henry myself.

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Old 04-29-2016, 08:54 AM
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Wow that JM 45-70 has GORGEOUS wood & the only place it would go were it mine, would be in the safe & out on the farm! Glad you kept it.

I bought 2 "Remlin" 1895s a few years ago. One a MINT DANDY JEWEL 1895 STBL (SS metal with select walnut stocks) as it was my oldest sons choice the first time he saw it in the locked display of a local gunshop. It's been flawless since the first moment we took it out of the box. It'll go to the grandkids one day. A short while later I bought a new 1895G. It had the best fit & finish of the few Gs in stock at the time. All "appeared" correct & manually running the action seemed to verify that so I took it home as well. But once I began loading & cycling it, I quickly saw the flaws in its internals. I pulled the gun apart & "fined up & slicked" a few suspects & the gun was immensely better & I hunted 2 seasons with it. But it still didn't run & eject to my satisfaction & it would give loading problems with various ammo. (My hunting like of choice was the 300TSX Buffalo Bore mags!) So last summer I traded that gun on nice lil 7-08 & never looked back. (I have a mint 1968 336RC 35Rem handed down to me by my grandfather so I quench my "classic lever" thirst with it. I likewise have a 1965 Win 30-30 from an uncle but it's a safe queen & I prefer my 35 over it for woods duty!)

I know they are a "love it or hate it" but I gotta admit, I LIKE the Henry 45-70 for a big game woods rifle. I LIKE the tube load mag, no sense scratching up & manually ejecting every round everytime you come in from a hunt! Yes it's not as "aesthetically correct" as the Marlin but I'm afraid based on the rest of their parent co.s gun lines, the days of "JM quality levers" from Marlin are GONE! I can see another big bore lever in my arsenal & it being the new Henry with the case finished receiver. Stoked full of 300TSX at around 2000fps I can think of no finer "deer overender" for my west TN swamp bucks.

I wish someone would build a Marlin 1894 sized & styled action with enough muscle to handle the 454 Casull. That in a 16", slim & trim package would be my ultimate pick for a "pocket rifle" for my swampin. But sigh... I realize today's gunmarket is about doing what the bigger market dictates.
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I have one that I love .... and I use Piledrivers in it ... yours has nicer wood and if I were you I would keep it ...
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