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Old 03-10-2017, 11:40 AM
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Larry's place is having a sale now on a couple very popular 35 cal FN bullets, the Speers in 180 & 220gr.
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Hmm...might need to look into that for the 35 INDY I can probably drive those tough 180gr Speer bullets hard enough to get them to open reliably.
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Hmm...might need to look into that for the 35 INDY I can probably drive those tough 180gr Speer bullets hard enough to get them to open reliably.
I missed this when you posted it. I recently found a load done by a small company that drives that 180gr Speer to 2800 FPS (their number) and another that loads it to 2600 FPS for the .358 Win. The reviews for that 180gr on the Midway site are very favorable and some are for cartridges you might think overly powerful for that bullet. I may purchase some of the fast .358 Win loads just to try them in one of my .358s.
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what is larry's place? I tried the good ol google, but nothing definitive
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what is larry's place? I tried the good ol google, but nothing definitive
Sorry, Midway USA (Owner is Larry Potterfield). Sometimes I speak (type) in code so visitors to the site here do not storm the sale and buy them out. My bad!
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Sorry, Midway USA (Owner is Larry Potterfield). Sometimes I speak (type) in code so visitors to the site here do not storm the sale and buy them out. My bad!
Ha! thanks that's a good way to do it. I should have connected those dots. If you had said Larry Potterfield, I would have known... Therefore, I should have though of trying to give it a last name.
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TnHunter, now you've gone and done it haven't you, let the cat out of the bag didn't you!!!!!

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I missed this when you posted it. I recently found a load done by a small company that drives that 180gr Speer to 2800 FPS (their number) and another that loads it to 2600 FPS for the .358 Win. The reviews for that 180gr on the Midway site are very favorable and some are for cartridges you might think overly powerful for that bullet. I may purchase some of the fast .358 Win loads just to try them in one of my .358s.
I've seen similar reviews showing the 180gr Speer bullet to be quite tough; I'm actually more worried about not driving it hard enough to expand reliably than pushing it too hard.

Any idea what the lower velocity threshold is for that particular bullet?
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I've seen similar reviews showing the 180gr Speer bullet to be quite tough; I'm actually more worried about not driving it hard enough to expand reliably than pushing it too hard.

Any idea what the lower velocity threshold is for that particular bullet?
There are several positive comments from people using this bullet in the .357 Maximum and .357 Herrett that I've seen. Also remarkable that it also got a positive comment from someone pushing it at 3,000+ FPS as well (.358 Norma).

I found this comment to be a very informative one:

"From a 20" Marlin 336, 35 Rem at 2000 fps, groups are consistently 1-1/2" at 100 yards, using H4895. Has been excellent on Kansas Whitetail. At 10 feet, it penetrated 21" in wet newspaper and left a 3/4 to 1" hole all the way and 100% weight retention...perfect!"

While the ongoing discussion about 220gr out of a .30-06 gives me some pause as to just how well it would work on deer-sized game, using a .35 cal that may/may not expand makes better sense to me. My bonded core 255gr .38-55 Win load is just as likely to not expand as the initial velocity is under 2,000 FPS, but the proof to me was in the actual performance on a good sized Kentucky buck. The exit hole was not really big, but doesn't necessarily need to be when it's a .377 sized bullet to begin with.
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Larry's place is having a sale now on a couple very popular 35 cal FN bullets, the Speers in 180 & 220gr.

no offense 'hunter, but Larry's sale prices are higher than Graf's everyday prices. And when you factor in the flat rate shipping from Grafs, I fail to see why anyone would buy from Larry unless they were desperate and only Larry had the product.
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no offense 'hunter, but Larry's sale prices are higher than Graf's everyday prices. And when you factor in the flat rate shipping from Grafs, I fail to see why anyone would buy from Larry unless they were desperate and only Larry had the product.
Everybody likes who they like.

The last order I made with Grafs I was told that they were running behind and they would ship whenever they got the chance, likely a couple weeks. And that's about how quick they were, shipping over two weeks after I called the order in. Not my kind of C.S. No more Grafs for me.

I just made an order with Midway this afternoon, FREE shipping and will be in my hands in about 3 days.
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Everybody likes who they like.

The last order I made with Grafs I was told that they were running behind and they would ship whenever they got the chance, likely a couple weeks. And that's about how quick they were, shipping over two weeks after I called the order in. Not my kind of C.S. No more Grafs for me.

I just made an order with Midway this afternoon, FREE shipping and will be in my hands in about 3 days.

I've never had an issue with grafs. I hear LOTS of issues with Midway over the last decade.

Double charging for HAZMAT items if they don't come from the same location is a common complaint.

as far as free shipping with Midway, that isn't the norm.

glad you like them, but many people don't, and I never hear complaints about other companies like Grafs, Powder river, etc.
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I believe Midway has fixed the issue with double-charging HAZMAT fees, for most primers/powders. Also, they are now using an automated picking system that eliminated the high "handling" charge that used to be associated with buying just one or two very small-sized items.

It's easy to nit-pick among different vendors, but they all have their place. I sometimes buy from Midway because I can get everything I want in one order, instead of having to buy from a few different places because they don't all carry the stuff I want. I buy from Midsouth quite often, when I just want reloading components.
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As I said before, different folks prefer different companies. I have a Bass Pro about 25 mins away, but I won't buy anything from them, prefer Cabelas and the internet.

I found the person I spoke to on that Graf order to be no less than outrightly rude, a real bi**h. She sealed my decision to never do business with that "family owned" business that advertised "free" shipping while adding $7 to EVERY ORDER as "handling fees".

I'm glad that you like them, keeps them in business and thus keeping ALL such businesses competing for customers.
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I don't purchase reloading components from Midway but do buy other items from them. Their inventory is extensive and shipping is always prompt.
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no offense 'hunter, but Larry's sale prices are higher than Graf's everyday prices. And when you factor in the flat rate shipping from Grafs, I fail to see why anyone would buy from Larry unless they were desperate and only Larry had the product.
I bought lots of stuff from "Larry" But last December they turned me off completely when I received the usual "Birthday" discounts which were anything but discounts. Same price is what they gave me. Sorry Larry, but I hate it when someone treats me like I'm stupid. They insisted that the products I was interested in were already discounted, but they had previously discounted, discounted items that I had ordered in previous years. And while I never complained about the shipping charges, I never once had anything from them shipped free.

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I bought lots of stuff from "Larry" But last December they turned me off completely when I received the usual "Birthday" discounts which were anything but discounts. Same price is what they gave me. Sorry Larry, but I hate it when someone treats me like I'm stupid. They insisted that the products I was interested in were already discounted, but they had previously discounted, discounted items that I had ordered in previous years. And while I never complained about the shipping charges, I never once had anything from them shipped free.
If you go back far enough (I'm talking 30 years ago) you could buy stuff from them and there were no shipping and handling charges. Now, I'm sure they were rolled into the price, but even that wasn't bad, all things considered.
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I'd highly recommend that anyone in search of quality hunting clothes stop by Larry's place and "search" for Elk Fork Clothing and/or base layers and see what pops up, including free shipping. I've purchased a lot of quality hunting clothes from Larry at discounts of 50-76%. Have fun!
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If you go back far enough (I'm talking 30 years ago) you could buy stuff from them and there were no shipping and handling charges. Now, I'm sure they were rolled into the price, but even that wasn't bad, all things considered.
i remember those days. back then I did order from them. Then they got crazy with their shipping charges and others fees.

I haven't done much with them since then.
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.............. that advertised "free" shipping while adding $7 to EVERY ORDER as "handling fees". .........

that "handling fee" is peanuts compared to what shipping charges can be. Distance and weight of packages can add up in a hurry on any item when things get heavy.

as far as cabelas and bass pro, they are getting so crazy in their prices, I wonder how they stay in business. The Sportsmans Guide has always given me great customer service, great prices, and they offer extended payment plans for poor people like me. LOL
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