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Old 04-02-2017, 01:39 PM
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This question tends to come up when dealing with the Colt Single Action Army. I don't know about you guys but I almost always just load five rounds. I call it "The John Wayne Load". I don't want to tell anyone wrong but it probably would be okay to load six in the newer Ruger single actions because of the transfer bar. Does anyone has an opinion on this? Thanks in advance.
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The SAA Colt has a very WEAK safety and should never be carried with six. The New Model Ruger has the strongest safety in the business. There is NO REASON to not load six.
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Like I said. I always load five in the Colt Single Action Army. That is load one, skip a chamber, and load four. Then cock the hammer back fully and let it rest on an empty chamber. I tend to load six with the Ruger because of the transfer bar.
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Depends what I'm doing with it. At the range I load 6 in the colt, if carrying it then 5. 6 all day long in the ruger.
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"Depends what I'm doing with it. At the range I load 6 in the Colt, if carrying it then 5."

Exactly.
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Another welcome to the shooters forum.

If loading 5 and letting the hammer sit on an empty chamber is right with your SAA. With transfer bar revolvers I load all chambers.
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What about the guns that have hammer blocks or the base pin safety's?
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Like you, Hickok45, I learned on the old style of thumb busters that had you go for five with the hammer on an empty chamber. I know that the new transfer bar guns are safe with all six filled, but force of habit is a hard thing to break, and it also means I don't have to remember when I load up an old style gun.
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Old 04-05-2017, 12:24 PM
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Did the new Colts go to transfer bars? I saw one in Handloader last year and see any firing pin on the hammer.
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I have shot metallic silhouette for many years. We loaded 5 and shot 5 shot strings. My ammo boxes are usually 50 shot boxes and are in rows of 5. So for me it just seems natural to load 5 and actually kind of strange to load six, so even though I think that the Blackhawks are perfectly safe to carry 6, I still usually only load 5 with the hammer resting on the empty because that is what I am accustomed to doing.
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I think that the Blackhawks are perfectly safe to carry 6
That IS true of a "New Model" but not of the old original, three screw Blackhawks.
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That's what I like about Ruger Single actions. 6 shooters are 6 shooters. If it has 6 holes they can all have a cartridge in them at the range or in your holster. No worries.
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You said that as an overall statement but it is NOT true!! There are old style Single Six, Single-Six Convertables, Super Single Sixes, Blackhawks, Super Blackhawks, Bearcats and Hawkeyes with old, Colt style, three screw designs. They are NOT safe to carry six.
At last count there were more than a million as yet without the free repair to install a transfer bar.
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J. Didn't know that about the old 3 screw. That is good to know. All of mine are new models, but even so I still only load 5. As I said that just became habit and I don't have a problem with loading just five.
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Old 04-05-2017, 09:30 PM
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JBelk was correct old model three screw Rugers were not built with transfer bar safeties and are not safe to load six rounds. Ruger would/will convert the three screw Rugers and add the transfer bar safeties. Many felt this conversion created weird trigger pulls so never had the guns converted.

Some of the import revolvers are all over the place on this so I like the only load 5 unless hunting or personal safety require the extra round.

If you drop a single action revolver with out the transfer bar safety it is likely to go off, at the range or anywhere else. Lets error on the safe side when ever possible.
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Old model offer from Ruger.
http://ruger.com/pdf/safetyOfferAd.pdf
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J you are correct. I should have qualified that statement by saying new model but at this point there are so many new models around that the original models are getting a little scarce . The ratio of old to new is very lopsided to the new side. I believe that change occurred in 1976. I hope old model users know the difference. I had a friend that left his old model Blackhawk fully loaded and his wife knocked it off a high shelf accidentally and ended up getting shot. Fortunately she recovered after a serious wound. He said he hated Rugers because that shouldn't have happened. I gently reminded him that he should have loaded as an old Colt because the same thing would have happened. He agreed he hadn't thought about that.
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This question tends to come up when dealing with the Colt Single Action Army. I don't know about you guys but I almost always just load five rounds. I call it "The John Wayne Load". I don't want to tell anyone wrong but it probably would be okay to load six in the newer Ruger single actions because of the transfer bar. Does anyone has an opinion on this? Thanks in advance.
I lost interest in Colt SAs in the 70s. All my Blackhawks are carried with 6 including the current 2 screw model with firing pin block and my old 3 screw model.
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