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Old 12-30-2016, 08:33 AM
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Hello,

I'm VERY new to shooting and I want to get my CCW permit in the State of Colorado.

One of my local ranges offers a bunch of classes most of which I actually want to take but they have one class geared towards CCW that teaches

CCW holster draw techniques, presentation, malfunctions and clearing, combat and tactical reloads, one hand shooting, offhand shooting, and how to increase speed and accuracy.

Aside from the speed and accuracy is all the rest of that stuff really necessary? I'm sure the "average joe/jane" doesn't know how to shoot one handed or combat and tactical reloads. Law officers I'm sure already know that stuff but I barely picked up a gun 6 months ago. This is a little overwhelming.

Any thoughts, comments, or advice would be appreciated.

One thing to also keep in mind about me specifically is that I'm visually impaired. I have NO sight in my right eye and limited site (20/80) with correction in my left eye.

This greatly affects my hand/eye coordination and confidence as well.

Thanks,
Rich
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Old 12-30-2016, 09:11 AM
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Rich, the thing to do is contact the local Sheriff's Department as they are the ones responsible for issuing the permit.

If it were me new to shooting ANY gun, as class put on at a local gun club would be on my list. You'll learn a ton plus probably end up with a few new friends who will lead you down the *Semita Ferro et Pulveris into purchasing more and MORE guns.

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Old 12-30-2016, 12:05 PM
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I'm VERY new to shooting and I want to get my CCW permit in the State of Colorado...

...Law officers I'm sure already know that stuff but I barely picked up a gun 6 months ago. This is a little overwhelming...

Thanks,
Rich
Just how do you think LEO learn how to handle firearms?

You think getting your CCW is "overwhelming," wait till you have to use your firearm to save your life.

Get the training and learn how to use your firearm, BEFORE you need it. When you're hip deep in alligators it's no time to remember you were sent in to drain the swamp!
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Old 12-30-2016, 01:37 PM
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Don't know which county you are in. Mine does, but not for renewal. There are also more advanced classes available dealing with more advanced self defense shooting, combat handgun shooting etc. I'll be taking my 4th next month, still hoping I'll never need what I learn. (Oh, I shot pistol as a pre-teen and a few decades ago even entered NRA competition, but there is always more to learn.) Try to find instructors who know more than you, like a retired police marksman instructor.

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Old 12-31-2016, 09:40 PM
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The CCW classes in Ohio are not geared for basic operation of a firearm, which is pretty much considered a prerequisite for taking the CCW class. The CCW classes here do have a firing range portion of the instruction, but are mostly geared towards the legal aspects, of carrying, and the basis for lawful self defense, and encounters with law enforcement.

Classes may be structured differently in your state, but if you were here I would suggest a basic firearms safety and instruction course before a class aimed at concealed carry. After these is when most people looked at advanced tactical training, and there are tons of various courses for them.
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I'm VERY new to shooting ...
This line says it all for me, yes, you need training.
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I was taught to shoot by my dad, and I've been shooting bullseyewith a .22 for years, but when I got my .38 for HD I took a course---can't hurt, might help!
For CCW there is so much more involved I'd consider taking appropriate courses vitally important.
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Old 01-08-2017, 09:28 AM
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IMHO What Timsr said.
Get all and any classes you can beginning with a basic gun handling and safety course.
If you are serious about CCW then for goodness sake find a course that teaches the "justification" for your state or local laws and awareness. Basically learn WHEN you can use deadly or any force necessary for a given situation. It will or should cover dealing with Law enforcement providing you survive.

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If your state requires showing proficiency shooting a handgun, do you think you are able with your eyesight?
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If your state requires showing proficiency shooting a handgun, do you think you are able with your eyesight?
My state does not require showing proficiency, however, I'm signing up for every class I can find/think of. As for my eyesight I bought a Smith and Wesson Shield in 9mm with a Crimson Trace Laserguard. I think that will help.
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Hello,

I'm VERY new to shooting and I want to get my CCW permit in the State of Colorado.

One of my local ranges offers a bunch of classes most of which I actually want to take but they have one class geared towards CCW that teaches

CCW holster draw techniques, presentation, malfunctions and clearing, combat and tactical reloads, one hand shooting, offhand shooting, and how to increase speed and accuracy.

Aside from the speed and accuracy is all the rest of that stuff really necessary? I'm sure the "average joe/jane" doesn't know how to shoot one handed or combat and tactical reloads. Law officers I'm sure already know that stuff but I barely picked up a gun 6 months ago. This is a little overwhelming.

Any thoughts, comments, or advice would be appreciated.

One thing to also keep in mind about me specifically is that I'm visually impaired. I have NO sight in my right eye and limited site (20/80) with correction in my left eye.

This greatly affects my hand/eye coordination and confidence as well.

Thanks,
Rich
Rich,
As important as mechanical training is (grip, stance, sight alignment, etc., etc.), just as important is mental training. "Can I kill to save my life?" (Don't replace the word "kill" with "stop", or some other equally lame word). Each and every time you ask yourself, the answer should always be YES!, with your imagination going over a different possible scenario which includes the noise, confusion, adrenaline, smell of iron in the blood, and on and on. Why? Because that's what will happen when saving your life with a firearm, so you must prepare yourself.

I said all that to address your question as to whether you need the training on how to shoot one handed or conduct combat and tactical reloads. The answer is Yes, absolutely. If our imaginations surrounding an armed encounter always start and end one way, then we are NOT prepared to defend our lives. I mean, imagine after you fire, your assailant fires and hits you in your arm, disabling it? What happens if there are two assailants and, despite firing all your rounds and hitting one or both multiple times, one or both are still able to fire their weapons? Yes, you need practice firing with both strong and weak hands.... you need practice reloading as quickly and efficiently as possible.... and you need practice with imagining scenarios.

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One thing to also keep in mind about me specifically is that I'm visually impaired. I have NO sight in my right eye and limited site (20/80) with correction in my left eye.

This greatly affects my hand/eye coordination and confidence as well.

Thanks,
Rich
Rich, be advised impaired eyesight maybe a serious problem in acquiring a CCW.

If you can, start from square one in training and understand there's always a lot to learn and improve, especially developing a good skill set when it's needed.
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RE: VERY new to shooting and I want to get my CCW permit

You might be over thinking it...Don't be class outline intimidated... Just go, learn, and have a blast! No fear.

You might consider taking the NRA pistol course, followed by Personal Protection Outside The Home. These two combined are quickly becoming the basic CCW training standard. It is my personal belief that in the future these will be the US standard training courses required and accepted for CCW after reciprocity. I hope so. Every CCW holder should be required to attend trained, and in a standardized way, with the same updated information and structure whatever state you may live in.

Train Hard! Train Safe! Train Accurately!

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