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#1 ·
(this is not ment to be a political post please do not interpret it as such)

Is this obama ammo scare ever going to end!! I have a small stock pile of reloading components and ammo, I went to the store today to see if they got anything in. All they have left is a few powders I dont use and only a few boxes of shotgun primers. The ammo shelves are pretty much empty but they have a bunch of guns. Its just realy annoying. I want to go shooting but I don't want to shoot what I have. I like to keep a little stocked up. I have not done any serious shooting in months. Im jonesing like crazy to go shooting. I work in law enforcement. My agency use to provide bunches of ammo to shoot with now we get like 100 rounds every 3 or 4 months if we are luckey. I cant seem to find any 40 cal around here and If I can its like realy expensive. Any way is their going to be a happy ending to all this? :mad:
 
#2 ·
Short answer - No. Gun owners will continue to be concerned (scared) of this administration until it is ended. Will supplies of ammunition, powder, and primers become widely available (assuming no significant changes in "gun laws") the answer is probably. But we may be months or a year or more from that point. "Supply and demand" (Capitalism 101) will solve the problem at some point.
 
#4 ·
Well, okay, if you insist.:D

We have a pair of foxes raiding our chicken flock. Lost 14 just over the weekend. SWMBO is now standing guard with my Henry .22 Mag, but says she needs "more practice" after 3 missed shots.

Rather than point out that it was a small target on a dead run 25 yards away, I just agreed. Of course, .22 Mag ammo is FAR too expensive, so I'll need to get another Henry lever in .22LR.

She fell for it, gun's on the way...:eek:
 
#5 ·
Pfoxy,

Congratulations!


Zapzoo,

It may be starting to ease. Several recent reports from other parts of the country indicate there are spots where the shelves are no longer going instantly bare upon arrival of new shipments. Somebody on another board timed the primer sellout at one of the vendors last week. Can't recall which one? Maybe Graf & Sons? Anyway, it took several times longer than the last sellout there, meaning several hours rather than half an hour, he said. Also had a report of backorders for primers that were received by a couple of folks.

It could just be a temporary lull, but I am hoping it is the leading edge of the end of the problem.
 
#9 ·
I thought it was getting better, but it seems to be getting worse again. The local store around here that was doing so well keeping up supplies, which was rationing 380 and primers, is now rationing 9mm and 45. The gun show this weekend was out of 9mm by noon on Saturday.

I think the supply will eventually catch up. The people stockpiling will eventually be satisfied with their cache. I don't think it will last through the entire Obama administration. It wasn't like this during the Clinton era, though I have heard people say there was initial panic buying when he was first elected.
 
#10 ·
i kind heard rumblings of this before it happened..i gambled an bought up a supply slowly..this time the gamble paid off in spades..... i had plenty before the shoirtage happened....i can pay an xstra 10 over last year an still buy my rifle ammo..
i retired the .380 ,,it sets uin a dwawer where it can do no harm.....i found fioochi 38 sp 158grn,lrn for 22 dollars for 50 an bought a supply..
if i was young id learn how to make powder ,bullet an everything i need..
good luck slim
 
#13 ·
The latest Rifleman magazine arrived today.
There was a clarification of the ammunition/componant shortage.All manufacturing facilities are working at full speed.Production is at an all time high.They are reluctant to invest in more machinery and more employes,because of mistrust in the Administration;just like everyone else.
The problem,as mentioned in the magazine,is easing a little,except for the 380ACP.
Keep the Faith
Frank
 
#14 ·
There is three main things I do for fun. I drive my motorcycle and shoot guns and reload ammo. Gass is jumping back up again its just under 3 bucks a gallon here and as I have already said ammo is well cant hardly find it. I just hope it ends soon.

On a happy note my neighbor just sold his .40cal and bought something else he wanted more. He had about a bunch of ammo. Now its under my bed!!!! I came home and they where on my porch with a note that said hurd you needed ammo. So I brought him a case of beer left it on the porch with a note that said hurd you needed beer. Figgured it was a fair trade. :eek:

Thing is wel probably shoot a bunch of it together this weekend.
 
#16 ·
Yes. People forget you can get match-accurate airguns, like the Daisey 717, for reasonable prices and keep your hold and trigger finger in shape at home in the basement. No noise or smoke. The semi-auto types are, well, generally not match accurate, but will still let you practice controlling an imperfect trigger. No pretending they'll stop an elephant, either. But cheap to use. Less than a penny a shot for inexpensive pellets and about two and a half cents for match pellets. And the high end ones are one-holers at 10 yards or else you can get something with higher pressure and a scope to keep the squirrels under control.

Almost no excuse not to have one. Or several.
 
#18 ·
Yes. People forget you can get match-accurate airguns, like the Daisey 717, for reasonable prices and keep your hold and trigger finger in shape at home in the basement. No noise or smoke. The semi-auto types are, well, generally not match accurate, but will still let you practice controlling an imperfect trigger. No pretending they'll stop an elephant, either. But cheap to use. Less than a penny a shot for inexpensive pellets and about two and a half cents for match pellets. And the high end ones are one-holers at 10 yards or else you can get something with higher pressure and a scope to keep the squirrels under control.

Almost no excuse not to have one. Or several.
I couldn't agree more on the Air Guns, I currently use my Benjamin pump air rifle that I got when I was a kid, and a Crosman pump air pistol around the place, and cost is minimal. Both will take tree rats at reasonable distances. Right now I am waiting on my new Benjamin Pre Charged Pneumatic to come in, should be able to take tree rats from 50 yards with it. One plus with it is the adjustable match trigger. It also comes with a ten round rotary magazine, will probably order several from the factory to have pre loaded ones on hand.


oloutlaw: Air rifles are not completely silent, even the pump up ones sound like a .22 short.
 
#19 ·
I know, had one when I was a kid .... just have no use for em'...... I use a .22 LR for everything up to bobcatz inside of 50 yds, beyond that I get out the Hornet..... they both make enuff noise to keep my Soul happy :)
 
#20 ·
I'd shoot some more 22 if the green mountain barrel I ordered a month ago for the 10/22 would ever show up :rolleyes:
 
#27 ·
I read it as gmd3006 as being sarcastic. In fact, I still do. I thought it made perfect sense that he was simply commenting on the humor that it is yet one more thing the liberal-minded like to use to say firearms have no legitimate sporting purpose.
 
#36 · (Edited)
I read it as gmd3006 as being sarcastic. In fact, I still do. I thought it made perfect sense that he was simply commenting on the humor that it is yet one more thing the liberal-minded like to use to say firearms have no legitimate sporting purpose.
Yes, mac, you have it 100% right! I apologize for not using appropriate smileys or something to highlight that it was sarcasm aimed at the Antis.

I quiver whenever I see airgun ads - I fear that the hoplophobes will use them against us to say that firearms are not needed. I also quiver when I see ads for "Explosive" varmint bullets - makes it look like we're shooting TNT around.

PS: I instruct in riflery at our local Scout camp, and use air rifles for the younger age group. So, I'm aware of the training purposes of these guns.

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#28 ·
If so, I may owe him an apology? It reads to me as sarcastic, but it seems like a real stretch if it was intended to be tongue-in-cheek. But as I've said before, few of us on the boards are professional writers and it is easy to fail to achieve the desired tone in a post. I may be reading his post incorrectly and he may be seeing something in my airgun post that is utterly invisible to me? That's just the way this Internet medium is, and its just one of several reasons not to get mad at people you disagree with online.
 
#29 · (Edited)
My local gunshop owner is the only place in about 4 cities around mine that has any ammo in stock. The owner says he tries talking to the ammunition manufacturers about why there is hardly any ammo for sale, but the manufacturers arent saying anything.
He thinks Obama is paying ammo factories to slow down, but that is just his theory.
 
#31 ·
It would have to be an awfully big payout to make it worthwhile to "slow down" especially since I would hope that most companies would be againts Obama's anti gun agenda
 
#32 ·
Sure they would be against an anti gun, anti ammo agenda, but more importantly, they are in business to make money. Offer someone enough, adn they'll do what it takes to make their product more expensive to the end consumer and increase their profit margin through scarcity?

NOTE* That was just a possible theory in line with all the other rumor mongering and scare tactics to keep everyone in a tizzy.

Breathe in, breathe out, relax and press you favorite trigger. :D see? Isn't that better?
 
#33 ·
Ever feel like you are trying to run up a muddy hill in a hurricane? The conspiracy theorists just won't stop trying to keep the panic alive, so it'll be kept alive and the rest of us will have to keep paying extra for supplies because of them. Maybe the rumor mongering is actually a conspiracy of retailers trying to keep their profit margins high? Just kidding.
 
#34 ·
My Dad and I have a saying, "If you go looking for a conspiracy, you'll probably find one" Meaning if you are sure that someone is covering something up, you probably will never be convinced that there isn't a conspiracy
 
#35 ·
That certainly seems to be so. The statement "I don't believe in coincidence" has been a mainstay of detective fiction for a long time. Some years ago, the late Isaac Asimov wrote something about that and pointed out the universe would be a much stranger place if there were no coincidence. No evolution, for one thing, and if evolution found a way around the need for coincidence to switch on the right gene under the right conditions to improve survival, then by the time we got to where we are today, nobody could ever win a lottery. The coincidence of the selected number and the picked number being the same just could not occur. Cast a mental eye on it for a time and you will think of lots of things in your life that would never work without coincidence, one-holer groups not being the least of them.
 
#37 ·
I've always believed that some of the advertising hype from the manufactures have been used as ammunition by the anti's. As you pointed out explosive bullets on varmits, TNT bullets, evil black rifles, camoflage rifles and shotguns to only name a few. The power of advertising is just as strong on the gun owner as it is on the gun grabber. I can only hope the manufacturers will realize this before its too late.
 
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