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Old 09-24-2009, 08:44 PM
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South Korea planning sale of 86,000 Garand rifles to US citizens

September 23

South Korea's defence ministry has announced plans to sell up to 86,000 M1 Garand rifles to gun enthusiasts and collectors in the United States. Along with a reported 22,000 M1 carbine rifles, the total value of firearms for sale exceeds $100 million.

The U.S. government has approved the plan for sales of the rifles, which were originally given to South Korea as part of a U.S. aid program in the 1950's.

The M1 is reportedly the first semi-automatic rifle generally issued to the infantry of any nation and saw service in the U.S. military from 1936-1966, primarily during World War II, the Korean War, and the Vietnam War. Subsequently, the M1 became a highly sought after collectors item, particularly through the Civilian Marksmanship Program. The U.S. military also sells surplus M1 rifles through the program.

A well-maintained Garand is both accurate and reliable, and the rifle is popular for hunting, target shooting, competitive shooting, military parades and reenactments as well as being prized collector pieces.

South Korea expects this sale to raise tens of millions of dollars.

South Korea planning sale of 86,000 Garand rifles to US citizens
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Old 09-24-2009, 11:04 PM
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If they figure the weapons will raise a 100 million dollars each rifle will be selling for $1162.80. Don't know how good of shape they will be in after 50+ years. I don't imagine they spent those years just sitting in a rack.
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Old 09-24-2009, 11:42 PM
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I've not seen to many journalist who are good at math. NOw by that I mean the $ 100 mil number is probably in error, not your division of 100 mill/86 K.

It would just be nice to see all these guns hit the market.
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Old 09-25-2009, 03:43 AM
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Stick 'Em

Yeah right,we GAVE them the weapons now they,re gonna sell them back to us ???????

They can stick 'em for all I care. If I want a Garand I'll buy a new one. Frankly.....I'd much rather have the carbine anyway(and it would be AMERICAN made).

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Old 09-25-2009, 05:30 AM
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These are American made, as far as selling them to make a buck when they were givin to them for free, that does kind of suck.
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Old 09-25-2009, 08:07 AM
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Should give one away with each new Kia that goes out in the "Cash for Clunkers" program. Now wouldn't that give Pelosi a stroke.....
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Old 09-25-2009, 08:18 AM
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All you guys complaining about them selling them back, would you rather have them crush them and turn them into firewood and Kias?

I'd also say the Koreans had it pretty tough in the 50's while we used their country to stop communism at the 38th parallel.

If you have never met a Korean they are the most (not all of course) grateful group of people for stopping the Chinese and appreciate America. Of course the ones I met are a bit older.

If the pricing is reasonable and the condition is decent, I'll be looking for one of each.

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Old 09-25-2009, 08:24 AM
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Really bad journalism

I put in bold the deficiency in the article. Doesn't anybody proof read this stuff anymore?

"Korea to sell Guns"

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South Korea's defence ministry has announced plans to sell up to 86,000 M1 Garand rifles to gun enthusiasts and collectors in the United States. Along with a reported 22,000 M1 carbine rifles, the total value of firearms for sale exceeds $100 million. The U.S. government has approved the plan for sales of the rifles, which were originally given to South Korea as part of a U.S. aid program in the 1950's.
The M1 is reportedly the first semi-automatic rifle generally issued to the infantry of any nation and saw service in the U.S. military from 1936-1966, primarily during World War II, the Korean War, and the Vietnam War. Subsequently, the M1 became a highly sought after collectors item, particularly through the Civilian Marksmanship Program. The U.S. military also sells surplus M1 rifles through the program.
A well-maintained Garand is both accurate and reliable, and the rifle is popular for hunting, target shooting, competitive shooting, military parades and reenactments as well as being prized collector pieces.

South Korea expects this sale to raise tens of millions of dollars.


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I had one of the Korean returns, at least I think it was. In the late 80s, I bought one of the Blue Sky Garands. I never checked into it but was told they were imported by Blue Sky in Arlington Va. from S. Korea. Was is pretty decent shape as I recall. Had an odd grain stock. Was told it was teak.
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Old 09-25-2009, 08:40 AM
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better source documents

http://english.chosun.com/site/data/...092300791.html

http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/worl...0924-g3cg.html
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Oh I vote for this!

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Should give one away with each new Kia that goes out in the "Cash for Clunkers" program. Now wouldn't that give Pelosi a stroke.....
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Old 09-26-2009, 12:23 PM
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Yeah right,we GAVE them the weapons now they,re gonna sell them back to us ???????

They can stick 'em for all I care. If I want a Garand I'll buy a new one. Frankly.....I'd much rather have the carbine anyway(and it would be AMERICAN made).

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These are American made, as far as selling them to make a buck when they were givin to them for free, that does kind of suck.
I like the new Springfield's and would rather own a shooter than a weapon of unknown condition and a war relic at that price. It could be just a trap to arm us with junk like we did the American Indians? But hey, were not supposed to start rumors or conspiracies.
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The other odd statement in the article is that the US Military "also" sells them through the program (meaning the CMP). That's odd. Does this mean the CMP is getting the Korean rifles? It would make sense, as that has happened with returned surplus Garands before. It may be the CMP doing the selling that is where most of the money is, as the CMP depends on sales for its income for running matches and instruction programs and the like. They check them out and fix them before the sale to earn part of that money. What Korea gets, if it is a sale at all, and not just a return, will be some kind of surplus price that beats the scrap value and pays for the shipping. Probably turn out to be $25 to $50 a rifle, or some such number.

As to the CMP gettng $100M for them, they'd have to be way, way above service grade for that to happen. That reporting is just like what the press does when they report wholesale illicit drug interdictions. They show bales of one thing or another being unloaded, but rather than the wholsale price that would have gone back to the drug cartels overseas, they give the most optimistic retail level street value they can cook up for the captured quantity. It makes the story more important, I guess.
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Old 09-26-2009, 09:33 PM
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Just wondering if thier gov't still owes us for our part in them obtaining thier freedom? WE could take these as a partial payment!! I would like to see them as display items in local VFW lodges, donated by the VA.
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Old 09-27-2009, 08:41 AM
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I like the new Springfield's and would rather own a shooter than a weapon of unknown condition and a war relic at that price. It could be just a trap to arm us with junk like we did the American Indians? But hey, were not supposed to start rumors or conspiracies.
I'm sure you can find other guns to arm yourself with, no? S. Korea is just looking to make a buck being the fact they are in the middle of a war. Even though there's a cease-fire, N. Korea has been testing nukes and ballistic missiles, so things are pretty tense. Even if they raise $20m, they'll be further ahead and have some cash for defence spending.

I'm just glad that they'll be more Garands in the market.
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You know, it is kind of a crappy deal to have to pay the Koreans for the rifles that we sent them to protect their own country. If you think about it though, it will be nice to get all of those classic American battle rifles back into this country where they belong.....and in the hands of American shooters !!!!!!! HD1
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Old 09-27-2009, 06:15 PM
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They should just give them back to us the US

Hey they could that! If there were to be a war we would be fighting in it like before. We could just take them back, We have taken things from others (ie the american indians and others)Why stop now?

I like the idea of getting one with a Hyundi or Kia. Then I could sell the car and keep the rifle!

Artist1018 has a good idea.

Unclenick I think we should just take them as a down payment for the next war were we help them or as part interest payment on the last war?
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Not Thru CMP

These rifles will be sold to a Importer-Distribtor, markerd as a Import and sold.
If the CMP was involved the Korean gov't would RETURN (not sell) them to the US Army, The Army releases to the CMP, And the CMP sells to its members.


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Old 09-28-2009, 11:53 PM
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I missed that whole Korean thing, So bring me up to speed. Why do I want one of these, and not the obvious.... it's a gun reason! Historic value? Piece of history? Garand? What!
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