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Old 05-13-2017, 06:04 AM
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Since the ammo panics, I see a lot of new brands, mostly from abroad, on local gun store shelves.
HSM comes from that far off land they call Montana.
The local Sportsman's Warehouse stocks both HSM factory reloads and HSM loaded with entirely new components.
I'm considering some new .38 Spl 158 gr LSWC---3 maybe 6 boxes to boost my shrinking supply of new stuff in preparation of the 2018 Ammogeddon here in CA---new brass is always welcome since I reload my range ammo, and 158 gr LSWCs are my choice for HD.
Very few factory new 158gr. LSWC apparently is made anymore. I haven't seen any Federal or Magtech in quite a few years, hence my interest in the HSM stuff.

My question is, is it worth testing a box or two to see how it performs? Or is it considered "second tier" stuff?
It isn't cheap ($23/50) compared to new hardball .45ACP ($18/50 for Magtech) at the same store, and even less on line.

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I can't see where a test of a box would be a wrong move. A friend of mine that lives in Lolo MT has high praise for HSM.

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While I've never used HSM handgun ammo, I've used their rifle ammo in a number of different calibers. I consider it a step up from typical Remington, Winchester, or Federal factory ammo.

Quality made ammunition from my experiences and I wish they still made it in .375 Win and .450 Marlin.
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Never had any problems with their pistol ammo. Did have some 308 ammo a few years back that had 3 duds out of 20 rounds and very high pressure signs. After looking the Gun over (friends Remington 700) I came to the conclusion that he hadn't cleaned the gun in 20 years!
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I have no experience with it, but seems to be popular up here based on the empty boxes I see at the range.
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I've used some without any problems.
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Old 05-13-2017, 08:19 AM
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I use it a lot, in 45-70 Bear loads, 45-70 light loads and .44 mag Bear loads. I like it, and have never had an issue.
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Old 05-13-2017, 09:02 AM
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While I've never used HSM handgun ammo, I've used their rifle ammo in a number of different calibers. I consider it a step up from typical Remington, Winchester, or Federal factory ammo.

Quality made ammunition from my experiences and I wish they still made it in .375 Win and .450 Marlin.
+ 1... My sentiments exactly! Make that a big step above.
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Old 05-13-2017, 04:46 PM
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Hsm

Used a bunch,all with great results.They used to load 308 with 165 grain Grand slams and I loved them on and I used them on Elk with good results.

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Old 05-14-2017, 06:54 AM
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Thanks everyone. HSM sounds very worthwhile!
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I haven't had a problem in revolvers that I've shot it in. Haven't used it enough for it to become a "mainstay" and I rely on others for EDC & SD (Underwood, XTP, etc=whichever shoots the best in a particular gun)
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I can echo the same statements above. Step up from "factory" Remington, Winchester etc. Every box I have ever bought shot decent enough. Even had box of 243 loaded with 107 gr Bergers....interesting, its the only "factory" ammo I have seen loaded with that particular brand. They seem to have a pretty wide variety of calibers to choose from as well.
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Old 05-17-2017, 04:10 AM
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HSM was the only place to get factory loaded Speer Grand Slams and I used a lot their stuff with those fine bullets. I have a stash of 200gr Grand Slams they loaded for the .300SAUM.
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HSM is up in the Bitteroot Valley, a way's South, from Missoula. I've dealt with Selway Armory, near the Stockyards, and the next time around, I'll try and get the low down on this cottage reloading outfit. Otherwise, it's kind of out of the way.
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Old 05-18-2017, 02:34 PM
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HSM has been loading commercially for over thirty years. I know both owners and have nothing but good words for them. I know they have extensive contracts with some of the largest law enforcement departments in the country. Also specialty military as well as letter agency contracts.
All that having been said I have not shot a lot of their ammo but the 308/178 amax load has worked well as has their 44mag/305 bear load. I thought the 6.5 X 284 loads were a bit slow but out of a long throated sloppy Salvage.......
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Old 05-21-2017, 04:24 AM
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Certainly "NOT" a step up in my mind. The ammo is manufactured locally and is nothing more than high volume reloads. They don't develop loads nor do they test, they just copy and then produce with new components. In fact if you call or text them on performance data they will reluctantly tell you whose bullet they use and make you look up the bc and calculate from there. With the price they charge for a few dollars more you can actually get a name brand. In my .45-70 their 405 gr lead shoot okay, but in my .308 with target ammo their stuff falls behind everyone else. The stuff does go bang reliably and if your not bench resting or going seriously long range it works okay I guess. Try it and if your not picky it would probably be fine. But I have gone back to other manufacturers on the stuff I don't reload and in the guns it matters in.
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Old 05-21-2017, 04:54 AM
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Thumbs up Since you roll your own.

With pending bad news from Kali, (I think) your $ might be better spent on components (especially lead) while you can get them. If you are gonna buy HSM primarily for the brass, is it that much superior than just buying bulk brass???
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Who is HSM??

https://www.ammoland.com/2014/03/hsm-ammunition/
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With pending bad news from Kali, (I think) your $ might be better spent on components (especially lead) while you can get them. If you are gonna buy HSM primarily for the brass, is it that much superior than just buying bulk brass???
All my reloaded ammunition is expended on practice. I want commercial ammunition for when things get deadly serious.
I'll shoot half a box to prove it works, load magazines/speed loaders with the remainder. At the end of the year replace with factory fresh ammo, Then I'll replenish my stash with the spent brass and replace with a fresh box. With six boxes of factory ammo I can maintain this pace for six years if need be (augmented with my own reloads for practice, of course!) budgeting for one box of factory ammo for each defensive caliber in addition to reloading components (lead, powder & primers)
This I can afford.
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