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Old 04-29-2013, 02:41 AM
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Hi. I am a new shooter and wondering around a right pistol for me. I have heard that 9mm caliber is the cheapest I can find unless I go to .22 LR., and .45 ACP price per round is about twice of the 9mm.

But when I searched online for ammo price myself, it seems that both caliber has about the same cost per round, 9mm being 75 cents per round and .45 ACP being 78 cents per round.
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Am I looking at the wrong corner of the internet? Or is the .45 ACP being twice more expensive old information? Could anyone help me to understand what's going on and which information is correct?

Thank you for all the kind help!
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Old 04-29-2013, 04:50 AM
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Well, right now there is no pricing that can compare to a year ago.
That being said, and everything comes back to sanity, 9mm is cheaper than 45. Demand is part of it.
Materiels is the other. A 230gr round has more materials than a 115gr round.
For me, 9mm is about 30% cheaper if we compare same make and types.
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Old 05-27-2013, 08:04 AM
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Good grief, you can do better than that.
You should be able to find 9mm fmj for 30 cents a round.
I just bought 2 boxes (50 + 50) for $30.00 from Dick's
Although the hollow points are hard to find at a good price right now.
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Old 05-27-2013, 03:28 PM
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9mm at the LGS is less than $.50, and ca be found cheaper than that!?, I haven't bought any 45 ACP since just after the SHTF, and even then I only gave $.38 for it, it's been readily available around here for a couple of weeks now.
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Being a new shooter, I would normally suggest a .22LR handgun to start off with but these are unusual times and finding .22LR ammunition in itself can be a problem. I would think that ammunition prices should start dropping around the beginning of next year and if you can hold off until then, you'd be in a much better position to begin shooting.

What with the recent nationwide tragic shootings and Washington debating more gun control, shooters have gone into a panic mode and buying everything in sight. Shooting supplies have been severely depleted so now is not a good time to start buying. I've cut back on my shooting in order to weather out the storm and will be happy when it's finally over.
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In my area right now, it is easier to find 9mm ammo than it is a .22LR ammo! Nobody has the .22LR stuff period.
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Old 11-30-2013, 12:22 AM
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Hi. I am a new shooter and wondering around a right pistol for me. I have heard that 9mm caliber is the cheapest I can find unless I go to .22 LR., and .45 ACP price per round is about twice of the 9mm.

But when I searched online for ammo price myself, it seems that both caliber has about the same cost per round, 9mm being 75 cents per round and .45 ACP being 78 cents per round.
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Am I looking at the wrong corner of the internet? Or is the .45 ACP being twice more expensive old information? Could anyone help me to understand what's going on and which information is correct?

Thank you for all the kind help!
As someone with experience in using the 9 and the 45acp, while it maybe more expensive to use, the 45acp still has an unsurpassed performance record. Guys, please don't quote references to me, this comes from personal experience.

One note, the 1911 types take work to master and in this case it's really best to handload for it (and cheaper). For self defense, always use factory ammo.
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Old 11-30-2013, 03:57 AM
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All other things being equal, 9mm bullets are lighter than 45 caliber bullets and the cases are larger. Given that a 115 gr 9mm Parabellum round will use half as much lead and brass as a 230 gr .45 ACP round it will generally cost less due to reduced material costs.

Further, the 9mm Para is the current NATO standard so it's extremely prevalent as well as extremely popular. Both factors lend themselves to an economy of scale that reduces production costs and usually, retail costs.

But in a shortage high demand can drive prices up and popular calibers can be the ones hit the worst. I've noted the local walmarts are well stocked on .40 Short and Whimpy, and 25 ACP but there is not a round of 9mm, 45 ACP or .22 LR in sight. That's a reflection on relative popularity.

.380 ACP is a good example of market fluctuation. A few years ago it was in short supply as companies focused on 9mm Para production and prices were accordingly high at $30-$40 per box. A year and a half later after production was restarted and orders caught up, it back back down to $15 per box. Now, with the emphasis on the more popular 9mm Para, it is again very hard to find and pricey when you find it.

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But in general, 9mm will normally be less expensive than .45 ACP.
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Old 12-01-2013, 06:22 AM
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typically around here if you don't reload you can pick up a 50rd box of 9mm ball for about 15.00, a 50rd box of .45 ACP for about 22.00.

Availability is much better now than it has been for the last year, It is still difficult to find any amount of "reasonable" priced .22 ammo. 9mm is still hit or miss on the shelf. Although I've found reloading components are pretty good all the way around now.

Interestingly enough the one pistol cartridge that in our neck of the woods which has had the most availability has been .40 S&W, Like everything else the price went up but you could always find that on the shelf around here even when everything else was gone.

You can do much better than the prices you listed.
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Here I Find a 100 round box of Winchester White or Federals 9mm luger for about $25 give or take a dollar or two. The 100 round box of .45ACP is running around $45 a box give or take a dollar or two. Its almost twice as much to shoot .45 than 9mm which was one of the main deciding factor in me buying another 9mm and forgetting the .45ACP I always wanted!

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Old 02-17-2014, 01:26 AM
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All other things being equal, 9mm bullets are lighter than 45 caliber bullets and the cases are larger. Given that a 115 gr 9mm Parabellum round will use half as much lead and brass as a 230 gr .45 ACP round it will generally cost less due to reduced material costs.

Further, the 9mm Para is the current NATO standard so it's extremely prevalent as well as extremely popular. Both factors lend themselves to an economy of scale that reduces production costs and usually, retail costs.

But in a shortage high demand can drive prices up and popular calibers can be the ones hit the worst. I've noted the local walmarts are well stocked on .40 Short and Whimpy, and 25 ACP but there is not a round of 9mm, 45 ACP or .22 LR in sight. That's a reflection on relative popularity.

.380 ACP is a good example of market fluctuation. A few years ago it was in short supply as companies focused on 9mm Para production and prices were accordingly high at $30-$40 per box. A year and a half later after production was restarted and orders caught up, it back back down to $15 per box. Now, with the emphasis on the more popular 9mm Para, it is again very hard to find and pricey when you find it.

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But in general, 9mm will normally be less expensive than .45 ACP.

You have one problem with some of this:

The US move to 9mm in the military was a political issue because of the move to .223.

As far as the serious shooters? i.e. the spec ops folks, they've long since moved back to the 45acp, because they know it works.

As far as the effectiveness of 9mm? Whew, I've read a number of shooting reports from LEA using 9mm (which mine did originally). It's rather sad to note the number of rounds fired compared to putting someone down.

.380 is the 9mm Kurz round.. or 9mm short. If the 9mm isn't that effective? Why in the world would you want to step down to a shortened 9mm?

I have personal experience with both the 9mm and the .45acp, I'll stick .45acp and have since 1980 (although I first started using a .45acp in the mid 70's).
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I think you need to start reloading your own ammo and beat the high pricing! I loaded up 1500 rounds of 45-acp last night. It took me less than 2 hours.
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I think you need to start reloading your own ammo and beat the high pricing! I loaded up 1500 rounds of 45-acp last night. It took me less than 2 hours.
You must be using some sort of progressive press. It takes me a LOT longer with one operation on one cartridge with a single pull of the lever. If I loaded 1500 rounds in a day, my arm would probably be too sore to shoot them for a while.
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If you shop locally, especially wholesale stores like Walmart and cabelas and such, 9mm is usually $15 a box and .45 is about $27, .40 is around $21-22 and I reload too now, I can get about 50 rounds out in about 10-12 minutes using a 4 die turret press. So in two hours, roughly 500-600 rounds. Your loading pretty fast to get even close to 1500 rounds out in 2 hours! I've been loading using Berry's preferred plated bullets(assorted weights) and some Hornady HPs that I got on sale, I'm spending about $9-10 on a box of 50 9mms. I figured if I saved $5 a box I reload, the dies payed for themselves in the first 500 rounds I reloaded. And I've seen a lot better accuracy though all 3 of my 9mms since reloading.
My basic load is a 147gr plated bullet, 3.4grains of alliant bullseye, CCI small pistol primers and assorted brass from winchester, Remington, and federal.
For 124gr I've been using 4.3gr of bullseye. Never had a problem yet. I've been loading on the light side though, but these are just for target practice and hunting.
I got into the idea of reloading pretty early on when I started shooting recreationally. Just be really careful and follow all the rules. It can be extremely dangerous. I've seen a guy blow off his hand with a mini 14 using reloads.

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You must be using some sort of progressive press. It takes me a LOT longer with one operation on one cartridge with a single pull of the lever. If I loaded 1500 rounds in a day, my arm would probably be too sore to shoot them for a while.
Easy answer: Dillion makes several progressive press' (although I don't really care fro them). Back in the bad old days of practical shooting, we used the Star presses. We burnt an average of 2-3000 rounds a month for practice. In those days it ran about 6 cents a round for reloads. Obviously it's more these days. But I still use a Star. Sadly they're no longer made unless someone gets start up funding.

You'll find the Dillon's easier to use, but while I own one, I don't care for them. A friend is using mine.
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Am I looking at the wrong corner of the internet? Or is the .45 ACP being twice more expensive old information? Could anyone help me to understand what's going on and which information is correct?
Buying components, pricing is pretty much the cost of the lead. The heavier the bullet, the greater the cost. Adding up costs in reloading, the bullet is by far the most expensive part of the load. If my eyes are seeing things right, there is way more brass and lead in a .45 round than a 9mm round. I suspect economy of scale is also playing into the number, and my guess is way more 9mm goes out the door than any other centerfire handgun load these days.
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. . . Back in the bad old days of practical shooting, we used the Star presses. We burnt an average of 2-3000 rounds a month for practice. In those days it ran about 6 cents a round for reloads. Obviously it's more these days. But I still use a Star. Sadly they're no longer made unless someone gets start up funding. . .
Did I hear Star? Brings tears of joy to my old eyes. I still use a Star (both of them) to reload .45 ACP, .38 Special, and 9 mm Luger. The Star is a true commercial tool, built like a tank, and will withstand unlimited mileage.
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Did I hear Star? Brings tears of joy to my old eyes. I still use a Star (both of them) to reload .45 ACP, .38 Special, and 9 mm Luger. The Star is a true commercial tool, built like a tank, and will withstand unlimited mileage.
Been using Stars since 75. Have 2 at the moment, have friends with at least 4 to 5 of them. If you need anything for your Stars, found a good guy who overhauls used products.

I won't reload 9mm for any reason (personal preference).

Heck back in the early days of IPSC, we were burning 2-3000 rounds a month which was easy on a Star. Love them... not happy with the Dillon I bought, so a friend has it.
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Buying components, pricing is pretty much the cost of the lead. The heavier the bullet, the greater the cost. Adding up costs in reloading, the bullet is by far the most expensive part of the load. If my eyes are seeing things right, there is way more brass and lead in a .45 round than a 9mm round. I suspect economy of scale is also playing into the number, and my guess is way more 9mm goes out the door than any other centerfire handgun load these days.
Learn to cast bullets as a last resort. It works well if you get good casting blocks.

Won't comment on 9mm... seen to much of why it isn't a great round.
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