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Old 12-20-2016, 03:28 PM
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Range report: Glock 19 vs Colt Defender


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The Colt Defender is 9mm and was purchased for a concealed carry weapon. The Glock 19 is 9mm an was purchased for concealed carry also.

The Defender weights 24 ounces and has a 3 inch barrel. Colt advertises it as a concealed carry weapon. The slide is steel and the frame is an aluminium alloy. The sights are white three dot system with one on the front sight and two on the back sight. The gun holds 8 cartridges in the clip and 1 in the barrel, 9 shots total.

I found recoil to be very light for 9mm. The sights were 6 inches off to the left at 8 yards. I adjusted the rear sight until the rear sight was starting to hang off the slide to bring groups on target. A quick search of the internet showed other shooters had the same problem. Round nose full metal jacket bullets cycled with no problems. I tried five different personal protection cartridges. None would cycle reliably. Not even Hornady Critical Defense cartridges with the plastic plug would cycle reliably. A quick search of the internet revealed several complaints from owners with the same problem.

Based on the range performance, I am a long time Colt man and this pains me, but I cannot recommend the Colt Defender as a concealed carry weapon.

The Glock 19 wieghts 23.6 ounces. Per the Glock website, the barrel is 4 inches long. However, laying beside the Colt Defender, I can see no difference in overall size except the Glock is wider. The Glock is wider because the gun has a double stack clip. The clip holds 15 cartridges. The gun is steel and polymer. The Glock has the three dot sight system, one on the front blade and two on the rear sight.

I found recoil to be in line with other steel and polymer handguns. Recoil was more than the Colt. The sights were dead on perfect at 8 yards. The Glock shot every kind of 9mm that I could find and put in the clip. The gun cycled flawlessly. The spent cartridge brass almost hit in the same spot on the ground. I wish that I had a 5 gallon bucket at the range. It would have been interesting to see how many would have landed inside the bucket.

Based upon the range performance, I highly recommend the Glock 19 9mm as a concealed carry weapon.
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Old 12-20-2016, 07:49 PM
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I've got a Glock 19 gen 4 that I took out of its box New in October and put a little oil on, then have run it non stop since. Not cleaned it once and have right at 2008 rounds through it as of last weekend. I get it very hot every range trip and never wipe it off or oil it up whatsoever. Still haven't experienced a failure. I'll probably start a post about it when I do get some sort of consistent failure or parts breakage. But so far not even a single hint of a stoppage or failure.

I found the Glock to have less recoil than the colt defender. I also find the Glock 21 to have less muzzle flip than a full size 5" 1911. That's just me. The Glock has a bore axis almost if not less than half of a 1911 style pistol though so that could be where I get that. If you don't get your hold on the Glock as high as possible you won't see the benefit of that, but you may get slide bite if you go too high!

Glad your happy with your Glock, sorry to hear about your problems with the colt.
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Old 12-20-2016, 08:16 PM
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Thanks for the comparative range report.
Didn't realize there were so many unsatisfied Colt owners.
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Old 12-20-2016, 09:20 PM
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Thanks for the comparative range report.
Didn't realize there were so many unsatisfied Colt owners.
I'm not a big fan of modern colt pistols. Their AR15's, specifically the LE6920, are of good quality. Although you can get something of similar quality from a different manufacturer for around $100-150 less. Colt sells their name more than they do a good product now days. Most of their stuff is still good though. I'm just ranting here but I wish they would innovate a little. They really haven't come out with anything "New" in a long time. Even some sort of new polymer framed service/duty pistol would be cool from another big manufacturer.
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Old 12-20-2016, 09:38 PM
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Colt sells their name more than they do a good product now days. Most of their stuff is still good though.
I agree, and the same can be said for Smith & Wesson.

I also agree with the assessment of the Colt Defender, which is why I, too, carry a Glock 19 Gen 4 instead.

The very first round shot from the Glock stovepiped - but since then, over 2000 rounds with not a single misfeed from any type of ammo, hollow point or FMJ.

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I have a Colt Defender in 45 ACP. I absolutely love that little gun. I had to adjust the sights, but heck you have to do that on most if not all pistols these days. I am not comparing this to the G19 (I have one) but it has proved to be 100% reliable for me. It eats all ammo, even Wolf (half a box got shot through it, don't judge it was free). I haven't had any problems, I am at a touch over 4700 rounds through it so far. Its only gotten smoother....I carry it everyday. My wife took over my G19, great little gun for plastic...
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I retired a Commander in 38 Super in favor of a Glock 27 (same as G26) modified to take 357 Sig (new barrel and mags). I've never looked back. Shot 28/30 in the head of a silhouette at 10 yards rapid fire (The two misses were an ear and the jugular vein). Consistent 1" at 7 yards. Night table gun is a G22 modified to 357 Sig. Wife's EDC and night table are both G43s. I'd have NO hesitation using a G19 or G17. (Darn=Christmas present idea for her)

One problem (not an issue so much with G4s) is limpwristing. My wife and two of her friends get failures to feed with my G26 but don't with the G43. I switched grips around and now it works fine.
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I have a Colt Defender in 45 ACP. I absolutely love that little gun. I had to adjust the sights, but heck you have to do that on most if not all pistols these days. I am not comparing this to the G19 (I have one) but it has proved to be 100% reliable for me. It eats all ammo, even Wolf (half a box got shot through it, don't judge it was free). I haven't had any problems, I am at a touch over 4700 rounds through it so far. Its only gotten smoother....I carry it everyday. My wife took over my G19, great little gun for plastic...

I have two Defenders I carry as my CCW weapons, 9mm and 45ACP. I've never had a single failure with any ammo through either. I do keep both clean, and I put a little film of Teflon grease on the ramps when I break them down. If I'm betting my life with a CCW weapon, I want to feel confident they will cycle every time, and I do.
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My 19 gen 4 came with two sets of backstraps, one with beavertails, one without. While I have not had a single issue with slide bite, I do like the beavertails.
A while back, i was experimenting with backstraps on a different gun that kept wanting to shift in my hand after recoil. It did not fix the issue, but I noticed an improvement. That made me question my decision to leave the small grip with no strap on my g19. I was not having issues, but decided to try out the other straps anyway. What I found was that I noticed less recoil with the straps. Not sure why, maybe something to do with the surface area of the grip or how tight my hand is closed. I now keep the large strap on it.
My daughter has been able to get the g19 to stovepipe an empty case a couple of times by limpwristing. I don't think it's because of strength, but more likely because she relaxes a little too much.
Beyond that, not a single issue, but I do clean it after every range trip. It's my daily carry, so I don't want to carry the scent of burnt powder with me everywhere,,, although I do like the smell. Could be a new cologne...

Also, kind of surprised you guys got g19's with 3 dot sights. Are they night sights?
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I have a 19, love it, but would like to get some nite sights, the stock site is ok, but doesn't do well at night!
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