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Old 12-26-2016, 05:36 AM
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Going through my ammo I found some .357's and want to start shooting my S/W model 19-4 (6 in) again. I found my son loaded me some rounds using Win 296 with a 158 grain bullet having either a copper wash or copper plate. I realize asking this question is like asking what is your favorite wine, beer, shotgun or dog but hear goes.

So for all you .357 shooters what is your first choice for powder and bullet, both cast and jacket?

I presently load .223, .308, 30-06, 45C and 45-70. Also my .50 cal T/C Hawken.

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Old 12-26-2016, 07:09 AM
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Way out in first place is WW296 powder and Hornady XTP 158g JHP. Second place goes to the same powder and the Hornady XTP 180g JHP. Has been this way for a lot of years and a lot of rounds.
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Old 12-26-2016, 10:12 AM
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I found my son loaded me some rounds using Win 296 with a 158 grain bullet having either a copper wash or copper plate.
W296 might be a bit much for some of the plated bullets as leading goes. A couple cylinders will let you know by looking down the barrel.

Like nsb, I find W296/H110 to be the one for "full on", "get the most" from a .357 in any form. It's most apparent in my .357 scoped carbine. My 6.5" BH and 6" GP100 can also find the difference using a bench bag at 50yds or 100yds. I've stockpiled lots of Speer 158gr HP's that were available for a while in 450 bullet bulk paks. They are very good all around in my collection.

But I'm not a fan of those as a full time diet.

For loads in the larger revolvers I like the 160gr cast LSWC using a mid level charge of Herco. In my SP101, my go to load uses Red Dot and a Speer 158gr LSWC. Both loads shoot well in all of my revolvers. The swaged load is barely a max .38 Spcl level, and few find it excessive even in the smaller SP101/4".

And that is the beauty of the .357.

I keep a supply of 140gr XTP's, 140gr Cowboy bullets, and 110gr Sierra Blitz HP's, but the 158's in the different formats have similar point of impact. The lead loads are very easy on the gun. (And me, BTW)
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Old 12-26-2016, 01:13 PM
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If I'm just shooting "plinking/target" loads out of a 357mag, my two favorite loads are 158-160g LSWC bullets and either 4.8g of Bullseye or 4.5g of 231. When I think of 357 MAGNUM, my thoughts just don't go to loads like that. However, I've used those loads for silhouette field pistol and they shoot very well and knock everything over. For actual magnum loads that are MAGNUM, I'll still defer to the first response I made....XTP's and 296. Now those are MAGNUM loads.
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Old 12-26-2016, 02:28 PM
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For my Henry BB .357 its 16 Gr of 296 with a 158 gr JSP bullet - anything less and I don't know I am shooting a .357.
Recently however I acquired a Mod 66 no dash 4" Smith and it will most likely never be loaded with anything like that but I am currently working up some fun target/field loads for it and currently combining 158 gr LSWC/RN with Unique powder. I am going to try to keep all loads for it at 140 grain and above bullet weight as I have always experienced better accuracy with heavier bullet/lighter load combinations in .357 Mag guns.
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Old 12-26-2016, 03:19 PM
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I like 2400 = uses standard small pistol primers and you can load it down or a max charge and all is good,.we use 158 grain extreme bullets for practice shooting and 158 grain xtp's for hunting. I am going to work up some hunting loads with power pro 300-mp this spring though..
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Old 12-26-2016, 03:50 PM
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I found some .357's and want to start shooting my S/W model 19-4 (6 in) again.
Standard 'rule of thumb' is to limit a mod 19's full house magnum loads but this has been debated on just about every gun forum out there! (however I follow the rule!)
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Old 12-26-2016, 04:53 PM
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Depends on purpose in mind. My deer load is 158gr XTP over 17gr of 110/296 or 18gr MP-300

My cheaper target load are the same charges under a Missouri cast 158gr SWC BRN18.

My cheapest loads are the MBC SWC over 8.0 gr Unique or 10.2 gr Blue Dot.

When I want light and mild loads, I do them in 38.
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Old 12-26-2016, 05:16 PM
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I like Speer #'s 4211 and/or 4217 158grn jacketed over a full charge (check your manual) of 2400, they shoot well out of my Ruger Blackhawk and Marlin 1894.
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Old 12-26-2016, 06:21 PM
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158 grain XTP and a safe load of 269 or H110 if you don't plan on shooting them exclusively in that S&W, otherwise I choose 2400 and a 170 grain hardcast 358429. For a plinking/practice load I'll use Bullseye and the 358429.

I have two .357's, a KGP161 (stainless) and a GP161 (blued) both 6 inch heavy shroud barrels.

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Old 12-26-2016, 08:17 PM
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14.5gr WW296 ( H110 same stuff ) and SP Mag primer, under a Lyman SWC of 158 - 172gr.
These don't have to be GC'd. Other's 158s also shoot well w/ this powder/charge.


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Old 12-26-2016, 09:29 PM
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I love a full house W296/H110 load, been my first choice for many years. I don't have an M19, but I do have a couple of M66's, same thing in SS. Despite the occasional criticism about K frames and these type of loads, I've been feeding them a steady diet of 296/H110 with 140 gr. & 158 gr. JHP's for many years. They occasionally need a little bit of maintenance to tighten them back up, but nothing extreme.

As far as using 296/H110 loads, make sure you use a magnum primer, apply a good roll crimp, and don't reduced the powder charge to below published minimum.

I don't think those plated bullets will hold up with a full tilt load, especially at 296/H110 velocities. I've read that some TP are think enough to handle it, but don't have any first hand experience to verify this. Speer Gold Dots are plated, and they'll handle any load just fine, but they're not your typical plated bullet either.

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Old 12-26-2016, 10:20 PM
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125 or 158gr jhp with Blue dot powder
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Old 12-27-2016, 01:46 AM
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It depends

My preference is for my hard cast 168 grain lead bullets and a moderate charge of Unique. Low cost and performs well on targets and critters. So it depends what you prefer. All the best...
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Old 12-27-2016, 05:21 AM
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Also have a model 19. Have heard for years not to make a steady diet of steamy loads if you want it to have a long life. Taking that advice to heart I load 158 XTP ahead of 2400.
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Old 12-27-2016, 05:32 AM
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Also have a model 19. Have heard for years not to make a steady diet of steamy loads if you want it to have a long life. Taking that advice to heart I load 158 XTP ahead of 2400.
This is correct. It's a K frame and that's not the strongest frame S&W ever made for a 357mag. However, "steady diet" means a lot to different people. Unless you're shooting some type of target shooting with it (silhouette, etc) the average person won't do it much damage over the course of owning it. If you shoot the gun every week and are putting fifty rounds a week through it of heavy loads, and do that long enough you might have a problem. I owned a model 19 "back in the day" and traded it off for that reason and replaced it with a model 27. A good point made, just consider how much use it will see. It's a very nice gun, just not made for a LOT of mag shooting over a long period of time.
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Old 12-27-2016, 05:58 AM
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For hunting I like the 185 grain Beartooth over a stiff load of H-110/WW296 in my Blackhawk. My 3 3/4" barrel New Model Vaquero shoots 180 grain XTP over Alliant 2400. My old Taurus and my Colt Trooper shoot the 158 grain XTP over H-110/WW296.
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Old 12-27-2016, 07:53 AM
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125 gr jacketed HP with IMR4227. Load them a grain less than max. This load has shown excellent accuracy for me in many 357 revolvers. Great varmint load.

For deer, heavy WFNGC with WW296.
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Old 12-27-2016, 01:54 PM
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With lead bullets I have two loads. First is for the heavy frame M27 & M28 I load a full 15 grains of 2400 under a 158 grains swc. That load gives around 1450 fps in a 6" barrel. For everyday use I load the same bullet over 12.5 grains of 2400. That load gives 1150 fps in a 4" M19 and 1200 fps in my 6" barrels.

The JHP bullets I've used on deer were 158 grain JHP Remington factory loads, 125 grain JHP with Blue Dot and 158 JHP with Blue Dot or 2400. I shoot mostly .38 wadcutter loads or Red Dot and 158 SWC in my Python and M19, although my M19 has taken deer with the 125 JHP loads.
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Old 12-27-2016, 04:26 PM
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125 or 158gr jhp with Blue dot powder

That's the 125gr load Alliant says not to use any more, but its hard to change a load you've used for years without a good first hand explanation, which I've never heard from Alliant.
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