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Old 01-01-2017, 02:53 AM
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Home defense. Urban environment. Plinking. Camping security. No big animals. Just BG. My friends financial situation is bringing him to this point and question.
Well, that's a bit different of a scenario. While a 357/38 revolver would work, I think with these criterion I'd go with a 9 mm auto loader. A reliable high quality brand.
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Old 01-01-2017, 04:48 AM
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My pick for covering the most...

bases would be a 22LR/22mag revolver, but will admit hunting rabbits with a 44 is still a worthwhile endeavor if you're a good enough shot.
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Old 01-01-2017, 06:47 AM
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a 9 mm auto loader. A reliable high quality brand.
I think that the winning recommendation so far.

I don't own a 9mm these days myself, but the buyer most likely doesn't handload, ammo cost is low.
If he has to ask a friend, he likely lacks the experience to manage anything bigger.
In NJ, the last thing you want to do is portage a handgun around. If someone runs into your car on the way to Shop Rite, you have a LOT of explaining to do, and will probably wear handcuffs either way. (You technically cannot stop anywhere to and from the range).
In NJ, shooting an attacker is against the law, even if you are in a wheelchair, so don't bother.

Probably better off with pepper spray and a whistle.
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Old 01-01-2017, 08:37 AM
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I'm sort of in that situation. I have a .22 target pistol and a S&W 640.
Due to priorities ---a bride to protect, economics ---just married and plenty of expenses, and bad laws---a decent selection of fire arms not available where I live, I went with what I thought was the best available on the used market. I'd much rather have a 1911 or N frame for HD, but that, for now, isn't an option.
My .38 is more appropriate for the task than my .22
What I'm trying to get across is, if you're restricted to one handgun, you'll have to work with whatever is going to be available.
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Old 01-01-2017, 09:30 AM
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If we choose only one hand gun it is not going to be idea for everything. I like revolvers and they have the ability to handle light and heavy loads so they have more flexibility than autoloaders. The high performance revolvers can 357 mag. 44mag. 460 S&W etc. can perform at target shooting and hunting with a single gun. The hand loader can get this range of performance from the 45 colt.

The 357 is probably the most versatile revolver out there. The light loaded 38s are easy for new shooter to use. It is available in the widest range of sizes. I makes good since.

My personal choice would be the 44 mag. it has more top end power and still can be loaded to light comfortable levels. Bad things for 44 is they usually larger and heavy and are not comfortable to use in the few light weight models with heavy loads.

Gladly I don't have to make this choice.
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Old 01-01-2017, 09:45 AM
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I like my Colt 70 series 1911 because I have two conversions for it. One is the Colt .22 conversion while the other is the Clark 460 Rowland conversion. It's a .45 in nightstand position but a 460 side arm for hunting and all 3 for paper punching.
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Old 01-01-2017, 11:53 AM
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Taurus .357 It does everything I need it to do.
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Old 01-01-2017, 08:10 PM
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Home defense. Urban environment. Plinking. Camping security. No big animals. Just BG. My friends financial situation is bringing him to this point and question.
I think your friend needs to prioritize.
First, for economy he should learn to shoot a handgun safely and accurately.
Arguably a good .22 target pistol will help him get a good start at $3 or $4 for a box of 50 cartridges rather than $20 or $25.
Good for plinking, and if he gets really good, small game. Home defense, not so much but certainly better than throwing rocks.
I'm prejudiced. My first handgun was a .22 and while I've had to move on to something more appropriate for HD, I owe a lot to the .22lr.
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Old 01-02-2017, 09:58 AM
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I live in the same area &....

the last box of "tree-hugger approved" ammo I bought was just under $10.00 (TEN) at wally-mart.
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Old 01-03-2017, 09:07 AM
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the last box of "tree-hugger approved" ammo I bought was just under $10.00 (TEN) at wally-mart.
Good point! Non toxic only for hunting in CA starting this year. Lead is still kosh for targets though.
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Old 01-03-2017, 10:42 AM
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As someone else posted somewhere, the cost of ammo to learn the skills could very quickly add up to more than the cost of the gun. IMO a 22 lr is a must have unless you are Daddy war bucks. I'm kind of a S&W revolver fan & NOBODY I've had shoot my 4" model 10 38 special (10-6 pinned heavy barrel) hasn't shot it well & liked it. A 686/681 L frame S&W 38/357 if you can handle a bit more wt & $. The 22 lr 617's are nice too, unless you really want a bottom feeder. DO A SEARCH, look under If you could just....
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Old 01-03-2017, 01:38 PM
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It really depends on what kind of uses you might need it for. A .357 mag will cover the spectrum from s-d to small game, assuming you reload. A .22LR auto or revolver, otherwise.
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Old 01-04-2017, 11:06 AM
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The thread about how many .38 Special loads do I need for California got me to thinking about this thread. The one only idea are not something I care to think about.
Our friend in California has a lot to think about though. This caused me to think.
Below is an old picture of my S&W .327 Federal Carry Comp when it was new. It now has wood Hogue grips. Also a S&W Model 36 in .38 Spl. Both are three inch barrels revolvers. The Carry Comp is magic and will push a .32 caliber 130-grain cast bullet just over 1,200 fps (at high pressure Ill admit) and will shoot bullets from 86- to 130-grains with a variety of powders. I enjoy shooting this revolver.
Below it the 3 barrel Model 36 was dubbed the Trail Masterpiece by Terry Murbach when it was introduced and for just about all of my shooting this jewel will deliver what I need.
However, when we discuss ONE handgun for everything the Ellett Brother special run S&W Model 60 Pro, a brush finish .357 Magnum would probably answer the question. Lots of different ammunition available and lots of components. This is a fine Kitgun and while I would hate to give up my .44 Spl Bisley the Model 60 Pro would probably do it all for me.
If this were 20 years ago a .22lr would be in the running but not today. The shortage is not over here and I can shoot .38 Spl with home cast ewadcutters for less cost than .22 Lr

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Old 01-04-2017, 03:16 PM
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I have a 44 magnum double action revolver which will fire 44 special and 44 shot shells. That is about as versatile as a handgun gets. I think that would be the one I would choose.
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I really don't need a handgun for any purpose but enjoy many. If I chose one that would serve me best in emergency situations, it would probably be a .22 LR revolver. I could kill raccoons, squirrels, and rats for food, protect me against most things, and both weapon and ammo are light.
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Old 01-05-2017, 04:54 PM
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Sometimes, when it rains, it pours--in a good way!
My elderly Uncle gave me his M-29---it was just too much for him these days. Now I have two HD handguns plus my shotgun.
New ammunition for the M-29 is prohibitive---it did come with two boxes of UMC mid-range 240 gr SWC and Redding carbide dies in .44---but hand loading for this one will be the only way I'll afford to shoot it. Fortunately, last month when I bought the 640 I was given an old RCBS Reloader Special from the 1980's and a few other odds and ends.
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Old 01-06-2017, 04:45 AM
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1911 in .45ACP would be my choice.
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Old 01-06-2017, 10:17 AM
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I have 2 357s and either would be satisfactory for me. The first is a pre Model 27 N Frame Smith with a 5" barrel and the other a Ruger Blackhawk 50th Aniv. with a 4 5/8ths barrel. Shoot well with either.
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Old 01-10-2017, 04:39 PM
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This is a very hypothetical question that was recently asked of me by a good friend and I was surprised how hard it was to answer, I thought it would be good to put out here and see if anyone can answer better than I can....

If you could have only one handgun to cover all your needs, which would it be? Why?
If a woman was to use it I would make it a 38 special J frame. It's simple and most women won't practice enough with autos to get it down to stress fire the thing.

If it was for me I would get a Glock 19 because I love them but all the girls I know can't rack the slide back so to be practical the 38 above would also be fine because it's dependable as heck.
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Old 01-11-2017, 06:25 AM
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I live in bear country and we go to Alaska every couple of years for fishing. If open carry and ammo availability were not issues, it would likely be my G20 in 10mm. If ammo was scarce, a Ruger SBH in 454 that I have (shoots 45 Colt as well).

If grizzlies were not a concern, it would likely be my G27 40 S & W (with 9mm and 357 Sig barrels). Conceals well, 3 caliber choices (just got the 9mm barrel this week), carries a dozen rounds.

BTW, M4M: Try a Glock with the TacRack (~$30). Much easier (my wife had the same problem with her G43 and my G26 (she won't shoot my G27). Also, better with my 66+ years arthritis in my hands.
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