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Old 12-30-2016, 10:31 PM
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A question for those who carry a 1911.


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I didn't find an area of the site that's specific to carrying or 1911s, so I hope this is the right place for this question.

For now, I've chosen to carry a .380. My first handgun purchase was a Glock 42. I found the grip to be smaller than I like, so I recently purchased a Bersa Thunder 380. I like the way it feels, the way it shoots, its size, etc., but I am aware of a .380s limitations. One of my other guns is a Glock 35. It's a great gun too, shoots well, .40 cal has plenty of stopping power, etc. But it's a pretty big gun. I found out that Glock designed it to be roughly the same size as a 1911. I also found out that there are plenty of folks concealed carrying 1911s. My question is this: How do you do that? It's such a big gun that I don't see how anyone could effectively carry it concealed. Apart from the weight, such a long barrel has to poke and prod, especially when you're sitting down. How do y'all carry a 1911 comfortably and achieve a reasonable measure of concealment? I look forward to your replies.
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I have carried a Combat Commander which is a scaled down 1911. I get the feeling you think they are a thick pistol, which they aren't. The sharp butt tends to print so you have to dress in a manner that masks it. The thing I didn't care for with Commander on the belt, it kept pulling my pants down.
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Old 12-30-2016, 11:51 PM
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I don't think they're necessarily too thick, just long. I don't have a holster for it, but I tried putting my G35 inside my waistband. As long as I was standing up or walking around the house, I didn't have any problems. But as soon as I sat down, I started getting poked in the side under my ribs, the long barrel poked me just below my hip, and after a few minutes I decided it was just too uncomfortable. And it's not like I'm a skinny small framed fella either. I'm one of those good looking wide body fat fellers!
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Old 12-31-2016, 12:06 AM
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A former student of mine makes his own IWB holsters for 1911. He uses a hard plastic retention holster as the base (Fobus), single rivets a belt clip on the out side, and attaches a thin panel on the body side to prevent the hammer area from pushing into you. The single rivet belt clip allows for tilting the angle to fit when changing position (sitting in a car). He's a policeman by trade, and has made these for at least 8-10 years for friends & family. I've seen similar patterns from named makers in the past few years. Parts cost about $25, 7 years ago for mine.

He once had a motorcycle fall (off duty) at about 30 mph and his 1911 pistol/holster stayed in place.
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Old 12-31-2016, 09:39 AM
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I carry a 5" 1911 7 days a week / 365 days a year. I'm 6' tall and 200 lbs. and the size and weightis not a problem. 1911's are not thick, though the 5" is a little long. The secret with any CCW is the right belt and holster. With a good holster and a heavy enough belt, its never uncomfortable and I never have my pants pulled down. I have 4 different posters that I switch out according to my need, from a minimalist Yaqui Slide to a Folbus made of kydex. Of course, in Alaska, even in the summer I can comfortably wear a vest or a windbreaker for cover, but when I'm in the lower 48 I just wear a long-tailed shirt hanging out. Will it print? Sure, a little in some situations. But I figure deep cover is for certain special situations. On the street, be aware how you walk, stand etc and no one notices. The idea of CCW is "concealed", not "invisible". To me, enough gun "concealed" is to be preferred over not-quite-enough-gun that is completely invisible. But that's just me and my own situation. Your results may vary.
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I have a 45" chest and 35" waist, this tucks under my left arm quite nicely, I keep the bottom button on my shirt buttoned and good to go.
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I've been carrying full sized guns since the mid 80s (5" 1911s, Coonan Model Bs, Beretta 92s and CZ-75s) I'm 6' and 220 lbs right now (need to drop 20) As stated need a good belt and holster. Last three months been carrying my CZ75 cocked and locked in a IWB Bruce Nelson Summer Special at the 4 oclock on this contract.


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Rico, your correct the 1911 isn't a CCW. Regardless of a persons size it isn't CCW.

The 1911 is a military combat weapon made to be carried in a closed flap holster. In that roll it is an OK weapon.

Friends in narcotics started carrying them back in the '80s in cover situations, until one got made at a drug buy and had a sawed off shotgun put in his mouth. The others in that dept quit immediately and went with more concealable weapons. If a bad guy wants a weapon, the quickest and easiest one to get is your bulging weapon.

But this is America, each man can have his own opinion.
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Old 12-31-2016, 07:16 PM
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Rico, your correct the 1911 isn't a CCW. Regardless of a persons size it isn't CCW.

The 1911 is a military combat weapon made to be carried in a closed flap holster. In that roll it is an OK weapon.

Friends in narcotics started carrying them back in the '80s in cover situations, until one got made at a drug buy and had a sawed off shotgun put in his mouth. The others in that dept quit immediately and went with more concealable weapons. If a bad guy wants a weapon, the quickest and easiest one to get is your bulging weapon.

But this is America, each man can have his own opinion.
By definition, any weapon that is "carried" and is "concealed" is a "concealed carry weapon". Derp. It's the English language. It means what it says. In America, each man can have his own opinion, yes, but maybe not every narrow "my way but not your way" opinion should be expressed in every single venue. You might run into someone who's experience is a bit ... broader.

BTW. I've been in LE. A plainclothes narcotics officer making a buy from another drug dealer is not automatically made as a cop just because he's found to be carrying a 1911. There is always way more to it than that.
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Small of the back with a loose shirt hides just about anything, even in the summer with shorts and a loose tank top or tee (as long as it's not thin enough to see through, dark colors are better). It also allows you to bend and sit, although it will print when bent at the waist.
My favorite belt is an alien gear steel core leather belt. Even a thick soft leather belt can sag or twist a little with a heavy gun unless you tighten the heck out of it. The steel core doesn't sag or twist and you don't have to over tighten.
I prefer to carry at 2:30-3 o'clock and with owb, but I can only do this in the fall/winter/spring months with a jacket or coat, or with a smaller gun, otherwise the grip or back edge of the slide will print, which one depends on cant. In the summer it's iwb at 5-6 o'clock with a full to mid size gun.
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Thanks for the replies. It seems that it's pretty much like carrying any other gun: preference of carrying position and the holster make all the difference. Maybe I will take some time to try a few holsters out the next time I'm at gun shop.
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Jaq, yep. there are ways to possibly get you fat out of the fire once yu are made. My buddy talked his way ot; and they busted the dude two days later for the firearms violation, shotgun. But a wise man tries to not get made in the first place.

And you missed the point and the language. It isn't a CCW if it is NOT concealed.

1911s are beautiful weapons, with a interesting history, but poor carry pieces CCW
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Small of the back with a loose shirt hides just about anything, even in the summer with shorts and a loose tank top or tee (as long as it's not thin enough to see through, dark colors are better).

It also allows you to bend and sit, although it will print when bent at the waist

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As others have noted, the secret is a good quality gun belt plus a good IWB holster. My preference is the VS2 made by Milt Sparks. I routinely carry either a full size or Commander size 1911. The 1911 is a thin gun for a full size pistol which greatly helps concealment,
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I use to carry a full size 1911 years ago when I worked plain clothes. I had a belt "slide" holster that held the pistol tight against my back and covered by my t-shirt; completely concealed. And I'm a very small man; IWB holsters DO show on me and makes it look like I'm wearing a truss.
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Rico, your correct the 1911 isn't a CCW. Regardless of a persons size it isn't CCW.

The 1911 is a military combat weapon made to be carried in a closed flap holster. In that roll it is an OK weapon.

Friends in narcotics started carrying them back in the '80s in cover situations, until one got made at a drug buy and had a sawed off shotgun put in his mouth. The others in that dept quit immediately and went with more concealable weapons. If a bad guy wants a weapon, the quickest and easiest one to get is your bulging weapon.

But this is America, each man can have his own opinion.
Really? Started carrying a Series 70 1911 in 1980, since then I've carried series 80, Military 1911A1s, LW Commanders, Combat Commanders and officer models. I'm considering a Springfield Range Officer Compact in 45acp.

All were usually carried concealed except when in uniform (the series 80).

I'm medium sized, I simple changed my clothes to facilitate concealed carry both IWB and OWB.

OK weapon? Really? When I was on my first Training patrol, saw serious 9mm failures which is why we went series 80s in 45acp. You can buy one tuned out of the box the way we had them modified when it was still just the Colt (and Colt took over 30 years to figure the mods are important)
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I use to carry a full size 1911 years ago when I worked plain clothes. I had a belt "slide" holster that held the pistol tight against my back and covered by my t-shirt; completely concealed. And I'm a very small man; IWB holsters DO show on me and makes it look like I'm wearing a truss.
HA! Also used a belt slide until one my old gunsite buddies had me do a back roll. I like them, but they're not great on retention unless you hold them in. I used an IWB Snick (hasn't been made in years) and I still do on occasion. Had a bad arse over tea kettle ice accident 3 years ago, 1911 never budged in it.
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As others have noted, the secret is a good quality gun belt plus a good IWB holster. My preference is the VS2 made by Milt Sparks. I routinely carry either a full size or Commander size 1911. The 1911 is a thin gun for a full size pistol which greatly helps concealment,
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