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Old 01-05-2017, 06:41 PM
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The S&W Shield in 9mm would be a fine choice. Get some instruction.

The IWB holster from Andrews Custom Leather will make it disappear under an oversized T-shirt. The holster is almost as important as the pistol. Dont go cheap.

I use the CorBon 115 gr JHP load. Check the gel tests on Youtube. Whatever ammo you get, make sure it functions 100%. 9mm practice ammo is cheap and will help you maintain your skill.
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Old 01-05-2017, 06:58 PM
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You will mot likely end up with several guns. My first carry gun was/is a Taurus 85 in 38 spl. Then came the NAA micro revolver in 22 Mag. When I can I'll even place a full sized 1911 under the shirt.

One of the factors that will guide you on the course to which gun(s) you choose is going to be the method of carry, if like me you'll try and reject a number of holsters and carry methods before you settle on three or four. Of course you'll keep trying other ways as time goes on too.
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Old 01-06-2017, 03:49 AM
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I am currently considering what handgun to get as a CCW piece. My choices include a Ruger SP101 shrouded hammer model, the Kahr's all steel K9 9mm, and the Remington R51 9mm. In 380, I'd also consider Remington's RM380.
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Old 01-06-2017, 07:11 AM
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44 auto mag:"...and, if properly used, it can remove the fingerprints".
On my other hand,millions of cattle have died from a single 22 LR bullet
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Old 01-06-2017, 07:19 AM
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I am currently considering what handgun to get as a CCW piece. My choices include a Ruger SP101 shrouded hammer model, the Kahr's all steel K9 9mm, and the Remington R51 9mm. In 380, I'd also consider Remington's RM380.
I'd personaly avoid the Remington's after their gigantic recall and flop on the R51. The Ruger and Khar are better choices by far...
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Old 01-06-2017, 07:39 AM
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. . . On my other hand,millions of cattle have died from a single 22 LR bullet
True, but there is no record of a cow being engaged in a gunfight. OTOH, the Mafia likes the .22 LR, put the unsuspecting victim in the front seat next to the driver to be shot in the head by someone in the back seat.
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Old 01-06-2017, 08:08 AM
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My J-frame has no safety switch, magazine release or slide release to sort out.

When overcome by fear and adrenaline all I have to remember is Pull Trigger. Gun goes Bang. Not picky about ammo.

Me, I like .38 +P soft lead semi-wadcutter hollow points.

Would prefer a rifle but hard to conceal.
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Old 01-06-2017, 09:53 AM
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My J-frame has no safety switch, magazine release or slide release to sort out.
My 637 never fails to fire if you remember to load it.
It's lighter than my P22, and costs less.
You can buy target loads with very modest noise and recoil for practice. (or load your own).
It works with Speer shot loads, or Buffalo Bore 38+P, and anything .38 in between.
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Old 01-06-2017, 10:32 AM
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I would have two guns, one a full size duty weapon and a second smaller pocket pistol. Examples include a J frame 38 Spl or 357 Mag, scandium frame as the extra weight can limit carry options. A full size .357 Mag Revolver or 10mm auto would be my first two full size choices. Get good instruction and perfect your muscle memory of reloading, jam clearance and actual shooting under time pressure. Reload and compete if possible and attend all the training classes you can afford. 38 Spl in a revolver or 9mm in an autoloader would be my minimum choices. I like compact Glocks and full size Glock would be my choice as the longer magazines can be used in the shorter gripped gun.
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This has been a very interesting thread to read through. I made a post early and commented that there would be lots of opinions on this subject as well there should be.

A couple of personal observations on what I've read. Now, I'm not a LEO, nor am I a claimed "expert" on either handguns or self defense using a handgun. I was, however, a member of the military for a long time whose personal defense weapon in the military was a handgun. So I have at least a rudimentary understanding of the use of a handgun for self defense and carried such in more than one combat tour.

I saw the term "lifestyle" used as something one should consider as a CC holder. I see it a bit differently, thinking a person with a newly acquired permit should perhaps use a different "mindset" about how they might dress or act. To call it a lifestyle is a bit over the top for someone not in the "business" of LE, but rather simply someone wanting to protect themselves and theirs. Semantics, perhaps.

The second was the usage of the term "duty" weapon. Not sure how that fits for a person holding a Carry Permit, but I do see the idea of having more than one type/size making sense for folks who carry.

I determined early on that a SD handgun I carry and one I want for HD are not necessarily one and the same. My decision was, indeed, to use two very different guns for those two different jobs. I have two compact "carry" guns. I do not have a "duty" gun, but I do have a larger, higher capacity gun for HD and also to keep in my vehicle should that be desired.

Lots of smart folks here with lots of experience. There will be differences of opinions on many topics, rightly so. We should all try and understand, however, that the average citizens who get their Carry Permit do not do so with Law Enforcement as the reasoning to do so. They get it to protect their families and themselves. They have not taken an oath to "serve or protect" and any advice given might be given in that vein. To recommend that an average "Joe" become something he's not, nor needs or wants to be is not in anyone's best interests, IMHO.

To recommend the proper carry, proper handguns to carry and to practice to the point of having confidence in maintaining a high proficiency in SD is logical.
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Old 01-06-2017, 04:30 PM
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For a person not used to shooting a great deal or carrying I always suggest a double action revolver. An example would be a Charter Arms Bulldog in 44sp or a good used SW Chiefs Special or Combat Masterpiece or even a Ruger SP101 357Mag. There are a number of very good ones out there with great stopping power.

If you insist on a semi auto then a double action would be high on my list as all you need to do is point and shoot without messing with anything. Kahr makes a nice and lite carry with an exceptional double action trigger in several varieties. I and my wife carry a CW45 but you can get them in 9mm or 40.

I've carried a number of firearms over the years from SP101 (full house 357 were not fun in that snub) to a Sig P239 (fantastic gun but heavy) to a Govt 1911 (also heavy). I have settled on a couple. A Sig P938 (easy to conceal and light but the recoil is not for everyone still my wife carries one too), a Chiefs Special and the Kahr CW45 most of the time. I did carry a Kahr K9 and still have it but the weight was again a little much for me every day.

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Old 01-06-2017, 08:33 PM
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To recommend the proper carry, proper handguns to carry and to practice to the point of having confidence in maintaining a high proficiency in SD is logical.
Hmmm, good point.

If you don't shoot it from time, carrying it for personal defense, ???

Many states require some sort of qualification with the firearm being carried. PA does not, but I'm not complaining. I shoot often enough with my entire collection to be comfortable with any of them.

But to be a responsible CCW user, you need to shoot a bit.
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