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Old 03-18-2017, 01:01 PM
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I have shot revolvers all my adult life, with the exception of a Ruger MK II. I am looking for another handgun for carry, and I notice some very nice autoloaders for maybe 60% of what good-quality revolvers sell for, even used! You can probably guess that economic$ play a very large part of the decision.

The S&W 9mms, Canik, CZ 75, and PCR, Rugers, and Blocks...uhmm...Glocks...seem to be about in the same neighborhood $ wise. I'd only have to invest in a set of good 9mm reloading dies, some bullets, and brass...ready to go...not a biggie.

My question is; how hard is the transition from revolver to semi-auto? Would a shooter revert to what he's been practicing with all his life, and be slowed down an appreciable...maybe deadly...amount? That is presupposing reasonable practice/dry fire/shooting with the new weapon.

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I carry a long pull, DA auto that works exactly like a revolver. Pull the trigger to shoot it. (Ruger LCP).
Autos carried cocked and locked have an extra step in them that I don't like so don't carry them.
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Old 03-18-2017, 01:11 PM
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To help with the transition, there are a good number of SAs that come without a safety and even with the choice of buying a safety or non safety gun in the same model. One of my CC guns is a M&P Shield non safety .40 S&W and so is my HD SDVE in .40 S&W. I keep my Shield side by side with a M686 Plus (3") when not carrying it and feel fine with whichever my hand finds first; point and pull, simple as that.
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I have all four (SA/DA revolver, DA/SA auto). Familiarity from frequent handling and practice makes for easy operation with all.
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Old 03-18-2017, 01:42 PM
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My personal autos are...

a 9mm S&W Shield and a Sig .40 DA/SA---- I also qualified with an issued Glock (no problem) that was somewhat awkward to draw for my (large) hands, however once gripped it pointed like a finger & shot like a laser.
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Old 03-18-2017, 01:48 PM
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Look at an H&K without the manual safety. You can get DA only models such as their popularly growing LEM trigger. Or you can try the traditional DA/SA trigger that I like myself. Your first pull will be long and heavy like a DA revolver, then the rest of the shots will be shorter and lighter on the pull. It's also nice if you get a light strike or a soft primer. You can just pull the trigger again and the double action will kick in and re-strike. I'd seriously check out the Light LEM trigger if I were transitioning from shooting DA revolvers to autoloaders.

H&K's aren't cheap but the P2000 can be found for around the same price as a Glock Gen4 if you look around. Regular price is around $600-650. There is a model with tritium night sights that will cost $100 or so more as well.

I shoot S&W double action revolvers and H&K DA/SA pistols with no problems. I've also got Glocks and smith semi autos and I will sometimes have a problem with the mag release because I'm used to the H&K style paddle mag release. Which is far better than any button mag release. I find it less likely to accidently get pushed and drop the mag.


Edit: you said carry gun. They also make the P2000SK and P30SK. SK=SubCompact. Both come with the same trigger options and are doublestack 10rd capacities in 9mm. The P30 is probably the most comfortable to hold and use pistol I've ever shot and owned. You can put the smallest backstrap and side panels on it for a nice, slim, and lightweight little carry piece.

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Old 03-18-2017, 01:50 PM
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I constantly shift from J-frame S&Ws to SA/DA model 39, to Colt 1903 pocket pistols, to DA 380 autos. No problem.

i target shoot with Smith model 1719 and High standard target Supermatics.
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Old 03-18-2017, 02:23 PM
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For the $

Used police reconditioned Sigs/Glocks for my $. I feel if you can shoot a revolver well, you can shoot a long trigger pull semi auto well, or learn to.
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I carry a long pull, DA auto that works exactly like a revolver. Pull the trigger to shoot it. (Ruger LCP).
JBelk, guessing you like the LCP, or you wouldn't carry one, I'm thinking of grabbing one myself. I realize it's not a sniper tool but I was wondering what you get for accuracy. My M637 is actually pretty good even out to 25yds, but I'm looking for something even more portable for the warmer weather.

Any thoughts to share?
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Old 03-19-2017, 01:43 PM
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JBelk, guessing you like the LCP, or you wouldn't carry one, I'm thinking of grabbing one myself. I realize it's not a sniper tool but I was wondering what you get for accuracy. My M637 is actually pretty good even out to 25yds, but I'm looking for something even more portable for the warmer weather.

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I had one for about a year and used it as a pocket carry when walking around the block in sweat pants or gym shorts.

It shot as accurate as anything else I owned. My problem is I'm 6'3" and I have bigger hands. I could hold onto it just fine but my finger got pinched in the trigger guard very bad a couple times so I sold it off.
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Trent12-- "Accuracy testing" in my carry guns is done at arms length plus a yard. It's GREAT!
I put an ebay Crimson Trace on it mainly because it makes it more 'square' and easier to carry in blue jeans pockets.
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I have shot revolvers all my adult life, with the exception of a Ruger MK II. I am looking for another handgun for carry, and I notice some very nice autoloaders for maybe 60% of what good-quality revolvers sell for, even used! You can probably guess that economic$ play a very large part of the decision.

The S&W 9mms, Canik, CZ 75, and PCR, Rugers, and Blocks...uhmm...Glocks...seem to be about in the same neighborhood $ wise. I'd only have to invest in a set of good 9mm reloading dies, some bullets, and brass...ready to go...not a biggie.

My question is; how hard is the transition from revolver to semi-auto? Would a shooter revert to what he's been practicing with all his life, and be slowed down an appreciable...maybe deadly...amount? That is presupposing reasonable practice/dry fire/shooting with the new weapon.

Any feedback will be appreciated. Thanx
Flyboy, any man who has mastered the safety, handling, and firing aspects of a revolver will have no issues transitioning to a semi-auto pistol. Sure, there will be ergonomic, functional, and other differences, but those will be overcome in short order due to your experience with revolvers. Speed of the transition? That's up to you.

Sure we could go on and tell you things you already know "Get with a competent...."; "..practice technique....."; "start out slow and..."; "turn right at the range gate and...." and all that insulting crap, but you already know these things. If you want to transition and do it well, you will.
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You never said why you wish to carry Flyboy. Self protection? From what? People, or animals? I always try to suit the firearm to the job. Like a wrench, basically. Although, legal carry here is difficult, many do so in the mountains, and what they do elsewhere, is their business. Anyway, go with what you're comfortable with, and what you know best. If it truly can make a life and death difference, how important are a few pesos?
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I grew up shooting a bunch of different firearms. It is no harder switching from revolver to autoloader than it is going from bolt action to semi auto rifle or from pump shotgun to a self loader. I do not say this in jest, I have stood there trying to pump the forearm of my Browning A-5, thinking I was shooting the Remington 870.

You have to KNOW what you are carrying and have that in your mind set. Also remember never put your finger on the trigger until you're ready to fire.
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The best way to start making more....

second shot hits with a shotgun is to trade that self-feeder in on a good pump --- there's a natural adjustment to reestablishing your correct lead on the target for follow-up shots, that just dosen't happen with an auto.
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Flyboy, any man who has mastered the safety, handling, and firing aspects of a revolver will have no issues transitioning to a semi-auto pistol. Sure, there will be ergonomic, functional, and other differences, but those will be overcome in short order due to your experience with revolvers. Speed of the transition? That's up to you.

Sure we could go on and tell you things you already know "Get with a competent...."; "..practice technique....."; "start out slow and..."; "turn right at the range gate and...." and all that insulting crap, but you already know these things. If you want to transition and do it well, you will.
I saw the Aussie guys getting gigged about spelling the other day! Which I thought was rude! But what the heck is this gibberish .... "; ".. ? There is no ciphering this, with my second grade learning.
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Trent12-- "Accuracy testing" in my carry guns is done at arms length plus a yard. It's GREAT!.

LMAO ! Well, so much for the accuracy question
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I have shot revolvers all my adult life, with the exception of a Ruger MK II.
I have owned a MK I, 6 7/8" tube for, well, since I first saw one. ?? years ago. I sold my 45's and 9mm's a while back, as I hate picking up brass. Replaced the .45 with a M69. Turned the Kahr into a M637. Swore I'd not bother with a "brass spitter" again.

Well, I wanted a lighter carry gun for aerobic workouts, as even my TP22 and M637 want to pull my sweats down on a 60 minute walk/work out, and this thread got me thinking.

Soooo, long story short, and with this inspiring thread in my mind, I headed over to my new friendly LGS to pick up a set of lowers for my, "never need one" AR projects, I had ordered from Primary Arms. (They are building a TMan monument on their lawn). Just kidding.

And there it was. A pre-owned and (almost) never shot Llama .380, the baby .1911. It had barely perceptible wear on the barrel, and I'm 100% certain that it never saw a carry holster. My bet is 200rds or less, maybe 100. For $300. Always wanted one. Laid it away. Then, because it was not my featherweight dream carry gun for walking, based on JBelks sniper assessment, I ordered a Ruger LCP, to cut the NICS cost.

The part about never owning another semi auto centerfire, I lied.
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I saw the Aussie guys getting gigged about spelling the other day! Which I thought was rude! But what the heck is this gibberish .... "; ".. ? There is no ciphering this, with my second grade learning.
You know, I don't do much writing since I was in school and such. I used to be a great writer and got an almost perfect score on my ACT writing portion as well as other tests. Now days I write much worse and I've caught myself even writing with an accent. I'll use the words "y'all", "gunna", "Gonna", "goin", etc... they're only words here in the South. When I'm vacation people usually pick up on the fact I'm from the southwest pretty quick.

I try and catch myself but sometimes I just let it slip. I do most of my posting from my phone so it has Text message auto correct which is not really "correct". But it likes to try and think for me and it will often times correct things I don't want it to into other words.

Back to the question. Honestly I'm biased towards Hammer fired DA autos. HK, CZ, FNH(browning), Sig makes a good one too. Really though, if you know how to shoot a DA revolver well it won't take much to figure out an automatic. I find automatics simpler in design and operation. Only thing some people have to get past is the strength to operate a slide which is not problem for me with anything to date.
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