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Old 04-20-2017, 04:23 PM
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Lots of Good Thoughts on "Pocket Pistols here but I am Wondering about Pocket Revolvers.
What Are the Consensus feelings on the Barrel Length versus Cartridge/Caliber question?

Example is a 5-12" barrel 32 H&R Magnum Revolver compared to a 2" 44 Magnum revolver?

Any Similar Comparisons?

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Old 04-20-2017, 04:56 PM
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I wouldn't mind

An I frame S&W revolver if I could find/afford one. The various J frames are excellent, but bigger than (MANY) "pocket" semi's.

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Old 04-20-2017, 05:06 PM
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Here is my S&W 317 (8shot.22) with four autos.

Top center-- Ruger LCP w/lazer under a CZ-46. 25 auto.

Bottom--Walther PPK .380 under SIG-Sauer 938 9mm

Right-- S&W M317 2" 8 shot .22LR lightweight.
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Old 04-21-2017, 03:22 AM
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LOL, probably not while wearing my speedo on the beach but up north we wear different clothes in the Winter..
Depends on what you're wearing.

My M69 is the same size as a 686 with a 4" barrel.

Unlike most guys my age, my shoulders are wider than my butt, and my chest is deeper than my gut. At 5'9" and 190lbs, with a loose shirt, my M69 is not noticeable.
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Old 04-21-2017, 07:39 AM
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Thanks for the pic...

Jack, that S&W makes me think I need to go shopping today.
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That S&W 317 was given to me when I first moved WAY off-grid in a VERY remote canyon with thousands of rattlesnakes and no humans for neighbors. I made a thin leather slip cover for it, loaded it with two snake shot and five HPs and put it in my left rear blue jeans pocket. It stays there, or a shelf next to the door, 24/7. I lost count of snakes and woodpeckers and birds that won't get out of the house and packrats and porcupines and skunks shot with that little gun a LONG time ago.

It's surprisingly tough! I sat on an AirWeight Chief long enough to break the frame and expected the same with this but it's still straight!! I do put it in a front pocket when sitting in a steel tractor seat! My bony butt demands it.

The guns are made in 2 and 3" black and silver, Long Rifle and WMR.
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Old 04-21-2017, 08:10 AM
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Looks like a...

winner to me. I had a H&R 9-shot family hand-me-down till one of the grandsons talked me out of it & my J-22 only likes 4 rounds in the mag, so the 317 is something I've got to look at---- & I am a WMR fan.
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Old 04-21-2017, 08:13 AM
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It is a winner, for sure. My best buddy in Fla carried a black 3" WMR as his everyday undercover for more than ten years.
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website shows it being called...

a model 351c 7 shot & the price seems to be in line.
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Old 04-21-2017, 08:25 AM
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It wouldn't surprise me if they discontinued it. Here's one for sale at gunsinternational

"S&W 317-2 .22LR (PR34710)

There are a couple M351 mags for sale, too. Look under S&W rimfire handguns.
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That S&W 317 was given to me when I first moved WAY off-grid in a VERY remote canyon with thousands of rattlesnakes and no humans for neighbors. I made a thin leather slip cover for it, loaded it with two snake shot and five HPs and put it in my left rear blue jeans pocket. It stays there, or a shelf next to the door, 24/7. I lost count of snakes and woodpeckers and birds that won't get out of the house and packrats and porcupines and skunks shot with that little gun a LONG time ago.

It's surprisingly tough! I sat on an AirWeight Chief long enough to break the frame and expected the same with this but it's still straight!! I do put it in a front pocket when sitting in a steel tractor seat! My bony butt demands it.

The guns are made in 2 and 3" black and silver, Long Rifle and WMR.
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Curious: Have you Chronographed the S&W Revolver yet?

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I never even thought about it but just did. Peters High Speed at 808 avg.
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Old 04-23-2017, 08:20 AM
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Are you a derringer man also? I have been considering a Bond arms for pocket carry. The smallest gun I ever owned or carried was a 638, which I still like very much, but want something just a touch smaller (though not lighter) and preferably in .45acp. I also just plain appreciate the construction of the Bond Arms guns. I haven't carried anything smaller than a full size auto for 15 years though. I dress for the gun not the reverse.
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I haven't carried anything smaller than a full size auto for 15 years though.
Ever hear of "Swatting" ?

That's where a liberal spots a bulge and assumes you are carrying a concealed weapon.
They work in teams, follow you around a mall or grocery store, and together report a "gun crazy" behaving in a threatening manner.

The police show up, and attempt an arrest based on a description.

At the time, I was carrying a TAPE MEASURE. New to PA, and carry permits, I wasn't carrying.
The LEO's looked very embarrassed, but they don't divulge the caller. That was two weeks ago.

Carry may be totally legal, but it's no protection when you get swatted and they take you off in cuffs.

.45? Maybe not.
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Ever hear of "Swatting" ?

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As a matter of fact, it happened to me to, 17 years ago. It was a profoundly insecure coworker who mistakenly thought I fancied his wife, rather than someone who just spotted my gun though. I bought my attorney a nice vacation that year and the cops kept my P7 for quite some time. I have stayed well away from crazy people since then and had no further problems. For the last three years I have carried a Five Seven with a 6" barrel and a reflex sight OWB. I wear it under a loose button up shirt un-tucked. It seems rather obvious to me, but no one has ever indicated that they noticed it. I think most people are pretty oblivious. I may switch to a 5.25" .357 revolver in a shoulder rig soon. I am sorry to hear that something similar happened to you. It is a very un-nerving thing, or at least it was for me, but I still carry always and carry large. I never felt under gunned with the 638 when I carried that (before the P7), but I now figure why have less gun when I can have more gun. I am also moving to rural WY soon where I imagine that I will have less exposure to antis.

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GordonA,

The situation definitely sucks.

The fact that some irrelevant and unidentified liberal or loser can dump so much inconvenience on a decent citizen is pretty scary.

Glad I was carrying my tape measure.
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My two pocket guns are a NAA .22LR mini revolver and Smith 442 Pro .38 revolver with CTC grips. All my other guns bit heavy to carry in pocket unless I'm wearing BDUs and I used to be able to carry concealed my issued M9 Beretta in those big things. Thats the front pocket and not the cargo pocket!


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Question So, what was the crime?

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As a matter of fact, it happened to me to, 17 years ago. It was a profoundly insecure coworker who mistakenly thought I fancied his wife, rather than someone who just spotted my gun though. I bought my attorney a nice vacation that year and the cops kept my P7 for quite some time. I have stayed well away from crazy people since then and had no further problems. For the last three years I have carried a Five Seven with a 6" barrel and a reflex sight OWB. I wear it under a loose button up shirt un-tucked. It seems rather obvious to me, but no one has ever indicated that they noticed it. I think most people are pretty oblivious. I may switch to a 5.25" .357 revolver in a shoulder rig soon. I am sorry to hear that something similar happened to you. It is a very un-nerving thing, or at least it was for me, but I still carry always and carry large. I never felt under gunned with the 638 when I carried that (before the P7), but I now figure why have less gun when I can have more gun. I am also moving to rural WY soon where I imagine that I will have less exposure to antis.
Did you swat his wife on the tushy, or what? Crime/charge/verdict/ go to trial/ plead insanity (I was crazy about that girl)??? We need details & pics of the wife.

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My two pocket guns are a NAA .22LR mini revolver and Smith 442 Pro .38 revolver with CTC grips. All my other guns bit heavy to carry in pocket unless I'm wearing BDUs and I used to be able to carry concealed my issued M9 Beretta in those big things. Thats the front pocket and not the cargo pocket!


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I have a friend that I had known for 9 years (and saw weekly) before I found out that he carried a 92F in his pants pocket. Now I notice the bulge more, but I never thought about it before he told when we went shooting together for the first time. He is a computer and electronics guy so I suppose I had assumed he had geek stuff in his large pants pockets.
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It seems rather obvious to me, but no one has ever indicated that they noticed it.
As a former deputy, I look at two things automatically--car tags and who's carrying what. It's getting harder and harder to tell cell phones and pagers from handguns.

Twice in my local Walmart I've seen a cowboy about 6'7" (I'm 6'4") wearing a tall hat, boots and western shirt and the rattiest old Police Positive you've every seen in a western laced holster high on the right hip. It's obvious it's been there for decades, too.
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