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Hi-Point 9mm semi auto

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#1 ·
I would like opinions on the Hi-Point 9mm as I am on a limited budget and can only buy low-end priced firearms. I've looked around and know quite a few guys in my area who own Hi-Points. According to them they like them and are impressed by their life time guarantee although only one who shoots with me had to return his and found out it was the magazine and not the gun itself. I also know they come apart differently than a "Browning" type semi auto. Whats the scoop on that? Good or bad? At about $149 with a case box sounds pretty good to me. I would appreciate pros and cons on this weapon.

The Baron
 
#2 · (Edited)
i can't speak for 9mm but have had one in 45acp. it was a great gun for the price. i would no mind having another one if did not have to mini guns already. the one i had is now my brothers and has 1000 rounds through it with no ftf's or any other problems.you are ging to find people that say they are are junk, but never shot one. those kind of people do not like cheap guns that anyone can buy but it is politcs not quality.
 
#3 ·
I have a hi point carbine (40 S&W) I really like it, other than the crappy trigger, a gunsmith told me to stay away from the pistols, can't remember why but it was some kinda of safety issue??? There are some other manufactures that make a inexpensive pistols, I believe Cal-tec? makes one, and there is Makarov (sp?) do not over look the used market too.
The hi point pistols and carbines use what is called "blowback" operation there is not gas tube, and it is not "recoil" operated. The bolt does not lock up with the barrel/ breech. The bolt is pushed up against the breech with a heavy spring. This is the same type of operation as the 10/22. Basic, simple, and cheep to build.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blowback_(arms)
http://science.howstuffworks.com/machine-gun6.htm
http://science.howstuffworks.com/machine-gun7.htm
http://science.howstuffworks.com/machine-gun5.htm
 
#5 ·
if cheap gun is what you are after. you might want to look at cz 52 witch is a military surplus pistol. it is chambred in 7.62x25 ammo is a little high. but for 50 us $ you can get 9mm barrel for it, so you would have 2 calibers. you can find referbished cz 52,s for around 100 us $.they are real solid guns and will last a lifetime. have one and love it.
 
#6 ·
I have a 9x18 Makarov, bought it for $90 4 years ago. Ammo is getting steep. I would like a lighter gun like a composite. Mak is a wee bit too heavy for carry gun. I don't go anywhere w/o being armed, even church due to what's been happening lately. I'll check the other's named in the posts, thanks

The Baron
 
#7 ·
that problem with weight could turn you off to hi-point, although they have composite frames the slides are steel and it makes the guns heavy. my 45 weight was around 2 1/2 pounds and i think the 9mm is around 2 pounds, but not positive.however the cz 52 is not that heavy.only thing someone might not like about the cz 52 they only hold 8 but if you use 9mm to shoot every day and load it with 7.62x25 for defence you cant go rong.cz 52 7.62x25 will penatrate body armer 90 gr bullet 1700 fps velosity if you hand load 2000 fps witch has 850 foot pounds of energy same as 44 mag.but it does not have the stopping power of the 44 mag but you can get a idea of the power the cartrage can produce.i have seen and heard of alot of people being shot with 9mm with no ill efects witch has to do with ammo. if you go with 9mm make shure you use expanding ammo when you carry, and you can shoot the cheap round ball for fun.
 
#9 ·
My father in law aquired one some time back and its a big, heavy .45. I only fired it with FMJ for two mag loads and feeding and functioning was 100%. I would stick with the Makarov that you already have and use the money toward ammo for practice and more practice. The only time I would feel undergun with a Makarov was if it was all I had when wearing a US Flag T-shrit downtown Baghdad. While the Hi-Point is a new gun and priced low, I would search for a better bargin in a used gun. Check gun shows and pawn shops. Good luck in your search.

CD
 
#10 ·
Thanks Gents for all the replies. I will look into the cz mentioned. I believe the 7x25 mentioned is the Tokarev round which is the old Soviet bottle necked round. Have heard good things about the rounds. I believe it's better to compromise in the carry weapon as if it's not comfortable one will not carry all the time and if it means using a slightly underpowered firearm BUT you carry it, it's better than throwing rocks!:eek:

The Baron
 
#11 ·
"Carry gun" and "cheap" don't belong in the same sentence, unless you just don't value your own personal hide much, my opinion....

Combat Diver, that's a pretty strong endorsement!!! LOL :D
 
#13 ·
"Carry gun" and "cheap" don't belong in the same sentence, unless you just don't value your own personal hide much, my opinion....

Combat Diver, that's a pretty strong endorsement!!! LOL :D
Ditto that, Mr. Mike! Would want a gun with a proven "track record" if forced into a gunfight. IMO, there are plenty of used guns for sale with a proven track record that don't cost an arm and a leg. I'm not addicted to "new" but I AM addicted when it comes to reliable.
 
#12 ·
just because a gun cost alot does not mean it will function properly. i have 4 hand guns right now 1911 norinco, cz 97 b ,raging bull 500 s@w mag, cz -52. i do alot of reading on 1911 colts and the like. read guys having problems with there colt gold cups, kimbers all the time will not eaven go there glocks. i do not own any of these guns,so take it for what it is worth. but realiability has nothing to do with price. the tolerenaces on high $ guns are alot closer witch sounds good, but that is what i supect is the root of most problems, in autos.
 
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I have included a site where you can buy an aftermarket 15 round may for about $22.00.

It's at





http://www.sportsmansguide.com/net/cb/cb.aspx?a=364294


I think I will stick with my Mak although it's a 9x18. I will look at the Hi-Point next Thursday when I visit my gun-shop and talk to the owner, who's a friend, about all the comments I've heard including the take-down hassle and the weight issue. I don't like the magazine problems you guys mentioned as I have never had a feed problem with the (3) Mak magazines I collected over the past two years. Also I never meant to indicate that I was looking for "cheap" but just affordable because of my personal situation.. Some of us can't afford $400-$500 pistols.:eek:

Baron
 
#18 ·
Tom:

I realize some "cheap" guns are out there. I had a Jennings piece of junk when I started collecting arms and couldn't wait to dump it. The Hi-Point though I checked out dozens of owners in the area I shoot with at a local gravel pit and as I stated before only had a problem and that turned out to be magazine fit. I had the owner of the gun shop I was talking about was asked by me to take it apart and I inspected it closely and found pretty good workmanship for a mass produced pistol. I broke down and bout the C9 9mm model w/ extra mag. Other than the drift pin take down feature I can live with that as I used to work in metal when I first got married in 1969 as a millwright. I still have many of my specialized tools from back then. I also have some gunsmithing tools as I do work for my friends and family. If one has many friends with Chevys and they speak highly of them and back it up with performance reports it's hard to justify buying a Cadillac when you can't afford one.

Baron
 
#21 ·
I have a HiPoint C9 9mm pistol and a HiPoint 995 9mm carbine. I bought the C9 in March 06 NIB for $119, the 995 I got in a trade about 3 months ago.

I have well over 1700rds thru the C9 now, its my favorite range pistol and test bed for my 9mm reloads because its so darn accurate. The first 250rds I had some issues, turned out to be a bad mag and the gun needed to settle in. After HiPoint replaced the mag by C9 has been a flawless shooter.

The 995 gave me a few issues for the first 100rds, didnt want to chamber the 1'st round from the mag, but after the 100rd mark its been a flawless shooter. The 995 is more accurate than a friends Ruger PC9 and his KelTec SU2k. Only down side to the 995 is the 10rd mag capacity and looks.

For more info on HiPoint firearms check out: http://hipointfirearmsforums/Forum
 
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