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Old 11-20-2015, 08:23 PM
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I've always had a single stage press after a few months and a few thousand rounds I moved up to a progressive. I've decided to scrap my Hornady press long story. I'm actually giving it to a good friend of mine that is probably going to repair and replace parts. I kept the powder hopper I'm going to make it into a bench powder hopper, I just need to replace the plastic cylinder and cap. I want a Dillon progressive. I'm just trying to decide which rout I'm going. I reload primarily .45 ACP on the progressive. I shoot a lot of .45 ACP! I'm leaning to the Dillon 650 because I'm use to the auto indexing of the Hornady press. I also reload 9 mm, .357 mag. Some times a shoot a bunch of 9 mm or .357 mag but I usually just load them on my Rockchucker. Once I get my new progressive sett up and get it all figured out and get some practice with it under my belt I'm really considering getting a turret press. I have never used a turret press and right now I would most likely have to take my Rockchucker off my bench to accommodate a turret. But in the near future Ill be able to have all three mounted. However I have always reloaded for rifles on the Rockchucker it was my very first press. Any time I try out something new I go straight to the chucker. As far as accuracy and quality is concerned do turret presses such as the Lyman T-mag 2 or the RCBS Turret hold up to a good old single stage Rockchucker? I'm thinking I can keep my progressive set up for .45 ACP and just use the turret for the other pistol caliber's I reload and rifles. However if there is a noticeable difference in accuracy using a turret vs a single stage I'll probably just skip out on the turret. For pistol rounds I can mount a case activated powder drop and just go through each state for each piece of brass on each stage. For rifles I would still batch load but it would be nice to not have to swap dies ect just rotate the turret. My understanding is with a good turret press 100 to 150 rds an hour for pistol calibers with a powder drop is a reasonable goal. If so that would easily cover my lower volume calibers. Anyway educate me please.
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Old 11-20-2015, 10:39 PM
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Dillon 550B for its ease of use and simplicity of caliber change. Lee Classic Cast turret. Remove the advancement rod for use as a quick change single stage. Dies pre-mounted in turrets is too handy and a major advancement over the T-Mag and Redding. After a short time you may not remount the Rock Chucker. Mine's been in the corner for years. Even simpler, use the Dillon for everything.
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Old 11-20-2015, 11:39 PM
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Use the Dillon for precision rifle rounds?

Would you use a Dillon 650 to load rounds for a 600 yard shot?
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Old 11-21-2015, 08:10 AM
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It's hard not to like/love the Lee Classic Cast Turret Press, especially for $100.00. Take off the auto-index and it is just like the other turret presses. I manually advance mine between two stations to finish my rounds. Seat and crimp.
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Old 11-21-2015, 03:58 PM
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I have a Dillon RL550B, RCBS "RS", Lyman "All American" and a Lyman "Spartan", I load EVERYTHING on the Dillon, I use the RCBS to form cases, the two Lyman presses are used to make my bench look more impressive.
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Old 11-21-2015, 04:35 PM
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I have a Dillon RL550B, RCBS "RS", Lyman "All American" and a Lyman "Spartan", I load EVERYTHING on the Dillon, I use the RCBS to form cases, the two Lyman presses are used to make my bench look more impressive.
Do you shoot to 600 yards?
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Old 11-21-2015, 04:56 PM
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David Tubb uses modified Dillon 550s and 650s
I don't know much about long range shooting and I don't own any Dillon presses, but some long range shooters use Dillon.
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David Tubb uses modified Dillon 550s and 650s
That's not the first time I've heard that. I've also heard that the U.S. Palma team uses 650s.

I'm not sure I'd buy based on a modification, I'd need to do the same modifications myself to get the same results.

In a search, including Tubb's site, I haven't been able to find any documentation about either how he uses Dillons, what modifications he's made or anything by the U.S. Palma team saying they use Dillons.

I'm inherently suspicious of facts on the internets, because the internet is inherently suspicious.

Do you happen to have any references or citations about the Palma team or Tubb using Dillons?
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Old 11-22-2015, 07:28 AM
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Do you shoot to 600 yards?

Nope, what for??, any crider that I've ever shot is way closer than that!, you can call them in or advance on them over in the desert, and I have no desire to shoot anything on the next ridge line over?, it might be a mile hike down and back up the other side!

And I went back and reread the OP and he didn't say he does either?
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"Do you happen to have any references or citations about the Palma team or Tubb using Dillons?"

It is taken as a fact by most everyone that Tubbs uses 550's and 650's. I believe he discusses the Dillons in one or more of his books. Brian Enos would know:

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David Tubbs loads his ammo on Dillon 550s. It seems accurate enough to be a perinial national champion using it.
Right. I tell customers on that phone all the time."

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Old 11-25-2015, 03:22 AM
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Another vote for the Lee Classic Turret. Very versatile press for both rifle and pistol.
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Old 11-25-2015, 05:45 PM
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Yep, the Dillon 550 is a winner loading handgun ammo. I set up to load one hundred plus rounds at a time. Your tool holder, once adjusted, requires few changes. The shell plate will need to be changed with the head size of the cartridge. The powder measure is easy and safe to use. Changing from small to large primers does not take long. All this improves with time. I have an old style Lyman T-Mag set up do only my black powder cartridges. I use a Rockchucker for small volume modern rifle rounds and heavy duty case forming. I do not load rifle cartridges on the Dillon. All the equipment folks have recommended is good stuff. From what you describe having a progressive press and a turret press to load handgun ammo is redundant. Once you start with a suitable progressive press you may find yourself shooting more-much more. The estimate of how many rounds you can load a hour on a turret press appears somewhat optimistic.

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Old 11-26-2015, 11:24 AM
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I shoot 1000 yard a lot and load mostly on a Dillion 650. Yes it has a few simple mods, but it works well. I also have a RCBS Rockchucker and a Big Max that I use for load development and case forming, The only 1000 yard rounds I don't load on the 650 is 50BMG. which I don't shoot a lot but do load on a Dillion.
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So I've read a lot about the Lee Classic Turret. Is it really that solid? I've read a lot of different reviews. I'm actually looking at the Lee Classic Turret and the RCBS. For my purposes I don't know if the auto indexing would make that much of a difference. I'd love to get the Redding but it's kinda outta my price range right now. Plus extra turret heads are 80+ bucks ouch! I can handle the 40 ish dollar price of the RCBS. My plan was three turret heads. two turrets would have a pistol caliber and rifle caliber on each one. 9mm / .223 on one and .357mag / .308 on the other. The last turret would be the "other" so either a back up if for some reason a turret got damaged or to be used with the other various calibers that I shoot. This could eliminate my single stance from my bench. Right now my bench is small and sometimes feels cramped. One day I'll have a big bench! I absolutely would not sell it. I don't do bench rest competitions. I don't shoot deer at thousands of yards. For my rifles I mostly find a good hunting load and stick to it. i don't shoot lots and lots of rifle ammo. I probably shoot 100 or so rounds a year for the .308. For my AR I shoot probably a couple hundred every couple months. For my Remington 700 in .223 I might shoot 200-300 a year. Usually I shoot all but about 40 or so rounds prior to hunting season not that I'm going to shoot 40 times. Once the season is over I'll shoot the rest off then reload up a few hundred and it lasts all year. If I get the Lee I'm thinking about drilling bolts in the correct pattern right next to each other so if I need to Rockchucker I can remove the classic cast then bolt the chucker on. Anyway. Is the RCBS more durable than the Lee Classic Turret. Does the Auto index make that much of a difference for loading pistol rounds? I don't think I'd do rifles on the Lee. But I don't know I've never used one or handled one. All I know is people either seem to love or hate Lee stuff.
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I really just can't make up my mind!
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Old 12-01-2015, 02:12 PM
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This is what the Lee Classic Turret looks like with the Auto Drum powder measure. Here it's set up for 221 Fireball and I use the Auto Drum with the small rifle die. For bigger rifle cartridges I use the large rifle die. I bought both dies in a 2-die kit at FS Sales for $11.18. For handguns you just use the Powder Through Expander Die that comes with a Lee Die Set but you may need a riser to clear the Lee Primer Feed if you use one on the press. Look on the FS Sales website. They have good pictures and good info and their prices are the best I've found.

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Old 12-01-2015, 03:28 PM
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The Lee Classic Turret press is a pretty good setup. Some of Lee's better work. Large and strong enough for large rifle reloading, the safety prime works pretty well also. The powder system(s) are probably as good as any out there although I'm having a couple "issues" with the Auto Drum measure. The only problem with the Pro Disk measure is it's a bit limited for larger cases even with the double disk kit. I had one (LCT) for a couple years and liked it, but I mostly reloaded pistol rounds with it but have loaded a few 45-70's just to see if it would. It did. I ended up selling all the Lee stuff I had and went to something else that works better for my uses. Some how since then, I've ended up with a bunch more Lee equipment.....not sure how that happened... But not another turret press, I have no need for one.
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I've always had a single stage press after a few months and a few thousand rounds I moved up to a progressive. I've decided to scrap my Hornady press long story. I'm actually giving it to a good friend of mine that is probably going to repair and replace parts. I kept the powder hopper I'm going to make it into a bench powder hopper, I just need to replace the plastic cylinder and cap. I want a Dillon progressive. I'm just trying to decide which rout I'm going. I reload primarily .45 ACP on the progressive. I shoot a lot of .45 ACP! I'm leaning to the Dillon 650 because I'm use to the auto indexing of the Hornady press. I also reload 9 mm, .357 mag. Some times a shoot a bunch of 9 mm or .357 mag but I usually just load them on my Rockchucker. Once I get my new progressive sett up and get it all figured out and get some practice with it under my belt I'm really considering getting a turret press. I have never used a turret press and right now I would most likely have to take my Rockchucker off my bench to accommodate a turret. But in the near future Ill be able to have all three mounted. However I have always reloaded for rifles on the Rockchucker it was my very first press. Any time I try out something new I go straight to the chucker. As far as accuracy and quality is concerned do turret presses such as the Lyman T-mag 2 or the RCBS Turret hold up to a good old single stage Rockchucker? I'm thinking I can keep my progressive set up for .45 ACP and just use the turret for the other pistol caliber's I reload and rifles. However if there is a noticeable difference in accuracy using a turret vs a single stage I'll probably just skip out on the turret. For pistol rounds I can mount a case activated powder drop and just go through each state for each piece of brass on each stage. For rifles I would still batch load but it would be nice to not have to swap dies ect just rotate the turret. My understanding is with a good turret press 100 to 150 rds an hour for pistol calibers with a powder drop is a reasonable goal. If so that would easily cover my lower volume calibers. Anyway educate me please.
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I would get the RCBS turret. Sold mine when I got a manual Pro 2000. The Pro 2000 works fine once you figure out the strip primer setup.
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I see this is an older thread, but would like some opinions. I am starting to gather components to get back into reloading after about a 20 year hiatus. I previously used a RCBS single stage. I will be reloading for only a few cartridges at first. Most use will be for .22 K Hornet, then some 45-70 with cast bullets, then some 30-06. Others will likely come on line some time. I was thinking of a turret press so that I could have different plates/heads (wrong term?) set up for each caliber. That way I wouldn't have to re-adjust the dies every time I wanted to do a different one. remove any advance features and use like a single stage.I would also, likely have a powder measure/s set up as a bench item, and use a hand primer. Once I have worked up a load combination I like for each caliber I will likely stay with it so no need to change die settings. Does this make sense? If so what recommendations for brand, if any real differences.

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