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Old 01-25-2017, 06:34 AM
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. . . I tried 2400 several years ago with my 160 gr SWC in my 38s but it was kinda like shooting a sand blaster; lots of unburned powder spewed out all over the shooting bench...
Had the same experience with some old 2400 and light charges in .45 Colt. Lots of unburnt powder flakes which put scratches in my cases when I ejected. I think it was my fault for loading too light and had I loaded hotter, I might have gotten more complete combustion.
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Old 01-25-2017, 08:11 AM
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Not a powder I would use but:

From Accurate Manual for .38 spl

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Old 01-25-2017, 03:27 PM
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Not a powder I would use but:

From Accurate Manual for .38 spl

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Wow...

I put the 158 XTP and the 180 XTP data into Quickload and got pressures of 37866 psi and 43441 psi respectively...

QuickLoad can be a bit radical when it comes to straight-walled cases, but I would sure be leery of those loads...

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Not a powder I would use but:

From Accurate Manual for .38 spl

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Disregard this load data. It does not even come close to matching Accurate Arms data. In fact, it's about what they recommend for 357 Mags.

http://www.accuratepowder.com/wp-con...2016_Web-1.pdf

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Old 01-25-2017, 05:18 PM
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My favorite load with this bullet is 3.5 TiteGroup or 3.5 BullsEye seated to OAL 1.55 with a light taper crimp. It works, try it.................
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Old 01-25-2017, 06:36 PM
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Bill is right. That is not .38 Special data, some of it is higher than .357 Mag. Sorry I'm going to have to delete it, as it is clearly not safe in a .38 Special.
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Old 01-25-2017, 06:49 PM
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AA#9 can be used in the 9mm but I have never seen any data for the 38 Special.

I'd venture to guess this is because 9mm operates at about the same pressure as most magnum cartridge such as .357 mag., and AA9 needs those higher pressures which 38 spcl. isn't capable of.

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I tried the blue dot with the lead swc bullet,accuracy good but unburned powder was such a problem that the cylinder got tight and wouldn't lock back into place after twelve shots.I was using hot primers and a firm crimp. Went back to hp-38,it's a good feeling load but the accuracy is not what I'm after.Hopefully I'll get to try different types soon.
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Old 02-11-2017, 06:21 PM
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You have a lot of powder choices. If you plan to stay down at 800 fps, another old favorite is 231/HP38. I see from Hodgdon's site that Trail Boss will just pass the 800 fps mark, and it is perhaps the cleanest burning powder I've ever used. An economical choice would be Hodgdon Clays, for which the starting load of 2.8 grains produces 812 fps in their 7.7" test barrel. It is also very clean burning.

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A standard load for me, using either 148 grain Wadcutters, or 158 grain SWCs is 3.0 grains of Clays.

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Old 02-12-2017, 12:05 AM
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I tried the blue dot with the lead swc bullet,accuracy good but unburned powder was such a problem that the cylinder got tight and wouldn't lock back into place after twelve shots.I was using hot primers and a firm crimp. Went back to hp-38,it's a good feeling load but the accuracy is not what I'm after.Hopefully I'll get to try different types soon.
Blue Dot likes full cases with no spaces. It does work well, and shoot clean with wadcutters seated deep, but I've had the same issues with SWCs at 38 spl velocities.
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Old 02-12-2017, 12:12 AM
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BTW, I'm not advocating you run .296/H110 in 38 spcl.. I do, but this is something I perfected many years ago. It isn't a suitable powder for 38 spcl., but in my case I've worked the bugs out of the development, so it runs quite well for me. But it can either get a reloader into some pressures, or result in squibs if you don't know how to work with it in 38 spcl..

Wish you lived in the same county I live in, I'd trade you some of my powders for some of that AA9, I love it for my magnum loads. So if you live in Arizona and not half way across the state from Tucson, let me know.

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I did some similar experimentation with 296/110 a while back. Speer #9 and #10 had 35 spl loads listed. I had to get up to about 15 grains before it was shooting consistent, and that put me into 357 magnum territory. At listed max (10.8) velocities were all over the place.
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