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Old 08-03-2005, 02:15 PM
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Hi to all,

I haven't posted in a while but I have a reloading question.

I just purchased a new Ruger Blackhawk 5-1/2" in 45 Colt for my 12 year old son. When I go to the range to shoot my big handguns he gets bored with his Single Six .22, I thought the 45 Colt would be a good choice for him since he has shot my friends Ruger Vaquero many times with no problems and just loves that round for all the history it brings. This gives him a louder pop and more recoil making it more fun to shoot than his Single Six plus he shows an interrest in learning Cowboy Action Shooting when he gets older.

I have reloaded for over 25 years but never have loaded lead cast bullets and new to the 45 Colt. I purchased a box of Laser Cast lead, 200 grain RNFP to get my son started. I'm going to load 6.0 grains of HP38. I got this load data from Hodgdon in the Cowboy Shooting section. I have the powder and want to use it up, but for next time around does anyone have a good load for the Colt for young shooters?

I crimp all my 44 mag loads because that's pretty standard for the 44. Do you need to crimp all 45 Colt loads or just the higher end hotter loads. The load above is a very mild load and should be under 800 FPS, does this need to be crimped?

Is there anything I need to do to the bullets before reloading? These bullets come pre-sized and lubed. I hear all this talk about sizing, lubing, gas checks, etc. Are these things you do when you cast your bullets? I have only ever shot and reloaded jacketed bullets.

Thanks to all who reply.
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Old 08-03-2005, 02:34 PM
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rrush, yes you will need to crimp them. There should not be anything elso to do to those bullets. But you will need to flare the mouth of the case slightly before you load them. Sizing, lubing and gas checks are for when you make your own.
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Old 08-04-2005, 04:24 AM
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Excellent advice thus far. Not too many differences in the approcah between the 44 and 45 LC. The case mouth will need to be flared slightly, as indicated, and the crimping straightens that back out so they will slide into the cylinder more easily.

Another utility of crimping these loads is that if you are using a mild load as you have indicated, then a fairly firm crimp gives you more consistant pressure during combustion. This was a black powder load, and my mild load of bullseye just barely fills the bottom of the case. A firmer crimp is necessary so that the pop of the primer doesn't start the bullet into the forcing cone, before the powder has a chance to explode. Not a huge crimp, mind you, a quarter turn will work extremely well.

Easy cartiridge to work with, I think you will be pleased.

Experience is a hard teacher, because she gives the test first, and the lesson afterwards.
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Old 08-06-2005, 08:02 PM
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The bullets should have a crimp groove,and you want to 'roll crimp' into the groove.Lee makes a Factory Crimp Die that does a really nice roll crimp.Do you have dies yet?It should include a crimp die that rolls into the groove.
Light bullets and powder charges will soot the cases up some but they clean right up in a tumbler.

There is a new powder out called Trail Boss that fills the case better and burns more evenly in the big cases.Helps in making it harder to double charge the case too as it's very 'fluffy'.
Nice that your son enjoys the bigger bores.!
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Old 08-07-2005, 06:35 AM
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Throckmorton was right on. Be careful with that Hp38 in that large case. It's so easy to get a double charge in there. I've used 231 in my 45 Colt and like the powder but you do have to be careful with those large cases. Of course Unique has always been a good powder to use with the 45 Colt. You might try some of it once you exhaust your supply of HP38.
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