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Old 02-02-2017, 03:58 AM
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Let's try to get back to a good discussion and put the hurt feelings aside. Tit for tat isn't what we want here.

Here's my take - being a dedicated handloader, the goal is to develop as near as perfect load for a given firearm. Lots of varying projectiles and propellants will be used in doing this, plus jockeying seating depth and propellant weights. All this to provide a particular load that stays within published loading data (Lyman mostly used as they don't have a dog in this fight) and doesn't exhibit hard bolt closing/opening, prmer cup edges still round and no abnormal case appearance. In addition to that which provides the best accuracy, be it a lower velocity or higher. Also, if a hunting firearm the COAL is controlled by acceptable magazine length for proper feeding regardless of seating depth.
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I like reading these threads, even if I don't agree with everything, because there's usually something to learn. It's so easy to think that when you've done something a certain way over lots of years and thousands of repetitions without a mishap that it's the "best" or "only" way to do it, or that my opinion is best. I've learned that there can be a variable in the mix I wasn't aware of and it can sneak up on you and something bad happens. Smart people keep looking, listening and learning. Someone (wiser than me) said: "Humility is the hallmark of a truly educated person". As reloaders and shooters, we're messing with powerful and dangerous stuff, we should be the most reasonable and open-minded people on the planet.
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Old 03-15-2017, 02:18 PM
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I like reading these threads, even if I don't agree with everything, because there's usually something to learn. It's so easy to think that when you've done something a certain way over lots of years and thousands of repetitions without a mishap that it's the "best" or "only" way to do it, or that my opinion is best. I've learned that there can be a variable in the mix I wasn't aware of and it can sneak up on you and something bad happens. Smart people keep looking, listening and learning. Someone (wiser than me) said: "Humility is the hallmark of a truly educated person". As reloaders and shooters, we're messing with powerful and dangerous stuff, we should be the most reasonable and open-minded people on the planet.
Well said.

I've been shooting LONG distance with mainly gas guns for 40 years, always end up learning something new.

It's one of the reasons I stay friends with people in the industry, especially the old Sinclair guys. Phil Hoham is exceptional and currently with Berger. Rich Machholtz at Sierra is another one. When the Sinclair guys sent me the Sinclair nuts to play with, I really was taken back at first. Humpy was a big help on that one (another user here).
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