Pressure Signs - Page 6 - Shooters Forum
» Advanced

Go Back   Shooters Forum > Handloading > Handloading Procedures/Practices
Register FAQ Members List Donate Calendar Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read



Like Tree33Likes
Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Rate Thread Display Modes
  #101  
Old 02-02-2017, 03:58 AM
The Troll Whisperer (Moderator)
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Mesa, Arizona
Posts: 21,838

Registered Users do not see the above ad.


Let's try to get back to a good discussion and put the hurt feelings aside. Tit for tat isn't what we want here.

Here's my take - being a dedicated handloader, the goal is to develop as near as perfect load for a given firearm. Lots of varying projectiles and propellants will be used in doing this, plus jockeying seating depth and propellant weights. All this to provide a particular load that stays within published loading data (Lyman mostly used as they don't have a dog in this fight) and doesn't exhibit hard bolt closing/opening, prmer cup edges still round and no abnormal case appearance. In addition to that which provides the best accuracy, be it a lower velocity or higher. Also, if a hunting firearm the COAL is controlled by acceptable magazine length for proper feeding regardless of seating depth.
Darkker and GeronPG like this.
__________________
NRA Benefactor Member
NRA Certified Police Firearms Instructor
NRA Certified Range Safety Officer


"Firearms only have two enemies - rust and politicans" author unknown
Reply With Quote
  #102  
Old 03-15-2017, 10:05 AM
Beartooth Regular
 
Join Date: Sep 2015
Location: Fayetteville, NC
Posts: 102
I like reading these threads, even if I don't agree with everything, because there's usually something to learn. It's so easy to think that when you've done something a certain way over lots of years and thousands of repetitions without a mishap that it's the "best" or "only" way to do it, or that my opinion is best. I've learned that there can be a variable in the mix I wasn't aware of and it can sneak up on you and something bad happens. Smart people keep looking, listening and learning. Someone (wiser than me) said: "Humility is the hallmark of a truly educated person". As reloaders and shooters, we're messing with powerful and dangerous stuff, we should be the most reasonable and open-minded people on the planet.
Darkker and MZ5 like this.
Reply With Quote
  #103  
Old 03-15-2017, 02:18 PM
Beartooth Regular
 
Join Date: Nov 2013
Location: BF Egypt
Posts: 5,115
Quote:
Originally Posted by GeronPG View Post
I like reading these threads, even if I don't agree with everything, because there's usually something to learn. It's so easy to think that when you've done something a certain way over lots of years and thousands of repetitions without a mishap that it's the "best" or "only" way to do it, or that my opinion is best. I've learned that there can be a variable in the mix I wasn't aware of and it can sneak up on you and something bad happens. Smart people keep looking, listening and learning. Someone (wiser than me) said: "Humility is the hallmark of a truly educated person". As reloaders and shooters, we're messing with powerful and dangerous stuff, we should be the most reasonable and open-minded people on the planet.
Well said.

I've been shooting LONG distance with mainly gas guns for 40 years, always end up learning something new.

It's one of the reasons I stay friends with people in the industry, especially the old Sinclair guys. Phil Hoham is exceptional and currently with Berger. Rich Machholtz at Sierra is another one. When the Sinclair guys sent me the Sinclair nuts to play with, I really was taken back at first. Humpy was a big help on that one (another user here).
Reply With Quote
 
  #104  
Old 05-24-2017, 12:06 PM
bfrshooter's Avatar
Beartooth Regular
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Harpers Ferry, WV
Posts: 692
Sad to say there is no way to determine pressure with your load except a strain gauge that differs from CUP. Primers are not an indication at all. But sticky brass or a stuck bolt is warning you that you tread where Angels fear to tread.
A time ago the expansion ring was measured to compare to factory loads, still a good thing.
Every time I bought a new big bore revolver, I spent months doing research before a drop of powder was loaded. This is serious stuff.
Even a powder change can drive you nuts. Or a primer.
Unclenick has a lot of good info. Maybe the best.
My big problem is there is no info on some calibers so I get twisted because of safety.
Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes Rate This Thread
Rate This Thread:

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Riddle me this... (comparing bullet, diameter, velocity, pressure, etc.) shane256 Ballistics - Internal and External 7 07-14-2009 07:57 AM
Pressure signs. Brad Y Handloading Procedures/Practices 16 03-15-2008 10:43 AM
Pressure Testing EastTNHunter Handloading Procedures/Practices 7 01-20-2008 12:31 PM
Pressure signs - 40 S&W (w/ pics) zthang Handgun Cartridges 3 12-21-2007 06:26 PM
Developing loads & pressure signs Taylor Handloading Procedures/Practices 8 10-14-2004 12:28 AM


All times are GMT -8. The time now is 06:36 PM.

< Contact Us - Shooters Forum - Archive - Privacy Statement >

 
 

All Content & Design Copyright © 1999-2002 Beartooth Bullets, All Rights Reserved
Privacy Statement | Contact Webmaster
Website Design & Development By Exbabylon Internet Solutions
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
SEO by vBSEO 3.6.1