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Old 06-29-2015, 06:42 PM
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Guys, I'm looking for some input on bullet selection for an upcoming hunt. I recently started hand loading, but I've been deer hunting for 25 years. Over that stretch, I have shot nosler partitions out of a 270 win and I currently shoot core lokts out of my 270 wsm. My current rifle shoots the core lokts just under 1" moa.

I hunt in MS, and we shoot some pretty nice whitetails up to 250 lbs live weight. Most of our shots are 50-200 yards, but we oocasionally shoot out to 300. I am going on my first hunt with an outfitter in October, to Wyoming for mule deer and antelope.

I made up some hand loads for my 270 WSM for this upcoming hunt, with the three different bullets listed below. The core lokt hand load is right in line with factory core lokt speed. I love how that bullets performs on game, but I'm not super confident in its consistent long range accuracy. It's not the most consistent bullet as far as shape and grain tolerances.

270 wsm
130 grain core lokt (flat base)
3100 FPS
7/8" three shot group at 100 yards

270 wsm
140 grain Hornady Interlock btsp
2950 FPS
3/4" three shot group at 100 yards

270 wsm
140 grain Sierra Gameking spitzer boat tail
3000 fps
3/4" three shot group at 100 yards

I'm interested to hear you guys thoughts. Thanks in advance for any feedback.
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Old 06-29-2015, 07:04 PM
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Can't see harm in any of them.

Shot my first mule deer with a borrowed .280 Rem and 145gr. Speer boattails. Worked just fine.... they aren't armor-plated.

Best of luck.
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Old 06-29-2015, 07:05 PM
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Welcome from New Mexico, Slong!

I shoot all three of those in 25- and 30-06 (and others). Were it me in this boat, I'd flip a coin until one is eliminated, then flip again until the 2nd is eliminated. Then go with the winner.

Good luck in Wyoming!
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Welcome from New Mexico, Slong!

I shoot all three of those in 25- and 30-06 (and others). Were it me in this boat, I'd flip a coin until one is eliminated, then flip again until the 2nd is eliminated. Then go with the winner.

Good luck in Wyoming!

Amen. I don't think you'll go wrong with any of them.
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Old 06-29-2015, 07:26 PM
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Ditto to all the above

Look at the photo - the blesbok ewe (mule deer size antelope) was shot two days ago with a .308W, 150 gr Hornady Interbond at exactly 200 yards, so impact velocity was about 2 500 ft/second. Penetration through both shoulders was straight and true with minimal meat damage and in fact took a leg off an immature ram which was not seen through the scope about 120 yards further on. She dropped in her tracks, the main arteries above the heart having being severed.

Any of your mentioned bullets will do. I in fact think highly of the Remington Core-Lokt bulllet - it performs very well.

I am impressed that your concern with the bullet is for its performance on the deer you intend to kill cleanly for eating, and not mainly on its speed and ballistic ability through the air. Good hunting.
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Old 06-29-2015, 10:56 PM
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Like the others said there isn't a bad choice in the loads you listed. If those loads are accurate at 100 yards, chances are the moa will hold up at 300. If I were to have a reservation on any of the bullets it would be with the Sierra boat tail. Although not experiencing it myself, I've heard of cases of the cup and core separating. In those instances they were high velocity shots at close range. The Pro-Hunter (flat base) bullet don't seem to have that issue.

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Here in Colorado we shoot good size muley's every year with Sierra 6.5 120gr from 260 Rem's & .264 Win mag. One shot kills. See no reason why any of your bullet selection isn't more than enough. Most important factor is sight picture & trigger squeeze for proper bullet placement. Wish you the best on your hunt.
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Old 06-30-2015, 04:25 AM
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I like the Hornady Interlocks, but am surprised you aren't getting more velocity. For any of the slower powders appropriate for the WSM, your 2950 is a starting load. I'd like it even better at 3100 fps.
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Old 06-30-2015, 05:21 AM
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I didn't get to chrono the hornady, but based on the load data in my manual it would be between 2950 and 3000. The manuals have proven accurate on the loads I have had a chance to chrono. When I stepped up the charge to get the Hornady in the 3100 range, the group opened up somewhat.

The Hornady load I listed was 2.780 OAL, 58.1 grains of IMR 4350, remington brass with wlrm primers.

I have a lot of experience with the core lokt, so I was mainly looking for feedback from guys with first hand experience with the Hornady Interlock and Sierra game King in 270 wsm. The core lokt tends to separate sometimes, and even not exit, but the effects of leaving all or most of the energy in the deer is devastating. Back when I shot partitions, most deer I shot would run 50-75 yards if shot behind the shoulder. Not so with the core lokts, most struggle to make it 10 yards if that. I was interested to see if guys had similar experiences with the Hornady and Sierra on game. Thanks for the feedback.
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Welcome, In prior years here in Co I've used the 140gr Hornady Interlock BTSP bullet in one of the 270's on a buck tag.

I started using the Hornady 140gr when box would cost $9.53 and last box was over $20. When Midway was selling bulk Rem bullets I got 1K of the 130gr for the 270 and hunted with them for couple years.

My current 270 I'm going to use Nosler 150gr ABLR on buck tag this year.

Of the bullets you posted I would use 140gr Hornady but I have zero hunting experience with sierra bullets.

Well good luck on your hunt
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Old 06-30-2015, 07:51 AM
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It would be almost Un-American to throw dirt on any of the bullets listed, but having used every one of your picks in rifles for deer from the .243 to .300 magnums, I have usually found the heavier bullets hold up better at magnum load levels.

I have a large supply of Sierra and Hornady bullets in many calibers, because they are invariably accurate and perform consistently. On closer shots, I've had both brands come apart when using lighter bullets in the 7RM, (and even from my 7-08 and .280), especially if they are quartering toward you, and you catch a shoulder. If I were to drag a .270 short magnum west, I think I might load up with a 150gr bullet.
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I have taken animals with both and stay with you feel confidant in. I have collected bullets from animals where the slug stayed inside and the Nosler always looks bad because the front is usually missing but the rear is still there. With the core-lokt as long as it didn't hit a big bone was a perfect mushroom. But if someone twisted my arm I would choose the Nosler Partition. I was moving a Deer hide that came from the High Sierras that I shot several years ago that had a small hole going in and not much bigger coming out and it was a 130 Nosler Partition from a 270 win. But the animal dropped in its tracks,also it was the largest from that area in over 25 years. I killed him the last day of the season in the middle of a blizzard.
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Old 06-30-2015, 01:12 PM
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Hi, Slong,

Where do you hunt in MS? I hunt south of Gloster, in SW MS. As you've stated, we have big-bodied whitetails. Antelope will be smaller, but the mule deer could run as much as 50% larger.

All the loads you listed should suffice, but, since you asked for us to pick one, I'd pick the Hornady Interlock. I've never understood the desire to shoot a light bullet in a magnum rifle - seems some folks just want to wear out their barrel much sooner. Velocities from 2900 - 3100 fps should provide excellent barrel life, and with the groups you're getting, another 50-100 fps doesn't extend your range very much at all. I would expect the Interlock to be slightly more accurate. The Core-Lokt would be my second choice. A premium bullet should give you a little more confidance, although I could certainly get by with the Core-Lokt. I just feel that you want every bit of confidance in a bullet's performance when you're spending time and money for a Wyoming hunt. Save the Core-Lokts for down south where the hunt isn't near as expensive and the range is more likely shorter.

Have a great hunt and send us pictures!
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Old 06-30-2015, 03:27 PM
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Slong,

You will never be wrong with a bullet such as the Nosler Partition or the newer bonded bullets of equal integrity.

Are they needed, likely not, but never wrong!

Personally I'd avoid the Sierra because of the boat tail. Such bullets have been known to slip their cored with the help of the tapered heel. Different then some other folk, I have never been a Sierra fan.

The Hornady Interlock is a good bullet for a cup and core type, and as I recall, their boat tail can also be had in a interlock verity.

With the right bullet and load, you will have no need for a boat tail bullet to beyond 500yds.

I would also use a minimum of 140gr and 150gr is even better. The lighter bullets may start faster, but at extended ranges, the heavier bullets are packing more mail where it counts.

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I've come to rely on the 140gr Nosler Accubond for my 270 Winchester. It shoots with the accuracy of a Ballistic Tip and holds together like a Partition. Works well on big-bodied Michigan whitetails.
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CCA, we lease some property just north of the airport in Adams County, and I also hunt with a good friend who owns family land in Claiborne County. Thanks for all the feedback.
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I've shot deer with the Sierra game king and pro hunter. The bullet went in through the chest and out the opposite shoulder and the deer ran for 100 yds. with no blood trail. I've since switched to a 45-70 and 405 gr. bullets and there is no tracking, they are dead where you shoot them.
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All good choices. The deer will never know the difference.
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