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Old 02-08-2017, 02:51 AM
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Yesterday I attended the huge Sportsman's Show in Harrisburg, Pennsylvania. I handled all the current lever action rifles and carbines. The "new" Marlins seem quite well made to me. Same goes for the Rio Grande model by Rossi. But I thought the Mossberg 464 seemed a little rough to operate in comparison. Winchesters are now imported but exceptionally well built. Browning's BLR is tops but so is pricing. Smoothest of all are the modified Marlins built by Wild West Guns of Alaska.

Today's consumers have a wide choice of lever actions to choose from.

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Old 02-08-2017, 05:13 AM
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Morning TR, I am always looking for information on leverguns.I use the
them on all game here in the western mountains,frankly I never even consider the other choices I have on hand. The BLR is an excellent saddle gun and is my main elk and sheep rifle. It is also a takedown and have a scout scope on it.I also use a Marlin 1895 45/70 and this also carries a low power scout scope and this is my everyday carry rifle and I am horseback a lot and use a Henry for offhand shooting practice. I find with the long eye relief scopes I can still wrap my hand around the receiver while carrying the rifle,with practice ,you can sight game quickly . Browning,Marlin or Henry make good products these days.
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Old 02-08-2017, 06:06 AM
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Glad you enjoyed the show. It is a must see event.

I've handled all the rifles you mentioned, including Wild West 'co-pilot, takedown'.

I think we agree, the Marlin is the slickest and seems best built. The old pre 1960 winchester were very nice, like the M71 and the 92. I never cared for the Winchester 88 nor the BLR, just too complicated for long term durability; although they handle higher pressure. The 88 had the advantage of a one piece stock.

Lots of interesting design features in the lever rifles.

Maybe someone can chime in on the Savage 99.
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Old 02-08-2017, 06:20 AM
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I own lever guns from Winchester, Marlin, Savage & Browning and enjoy them all. I'd probably say that my steel receiver BLR in .358 is my favorite because of it's handling qualities and also being in a chambering I really like. Most all my Marlins are medium & big bores, only one is a 30-30.

I'd say that one of my .444Ps is likely my favorite Marlin. I've got a pretty broad range of calibers in my levers; 30-30, .308(2), .325WSM, .356(2), .358, .375(4), .444(2), 45-70 and .450(2) and can use one for most any hunt I'm liable to be on. This year's Kentucky buck was my first deer in a while not taken with a lever rifle. They just work for me.

I have both a M99 and a M88 in .308 and my preference runs to the M88. Both are very nice rifles, while also being a tad longer than I like. I still look all the time for a decently priced M88 Carbine (also have a M100 Carbine), but they all seem to be more than I'm willing to pay. Even I'd feel bad about buying a well used M88 rifle and chopping it to 18-19"

T.R., I'm surprised you weren't able to handle any of the new Henry Long Rangers? I've seen some online for sale and also at pretty decent prices; about $100 less than a similar BLR.
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Old 02-08-2017, 04:56 PM
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I didn't spend any time at the Henry display booth because of the large crowd there.

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I bought a Chiappa 1892 44 Magnum recently - a 12" barrelled full stock carbine (we don't have SBR restrictions in Canada). Very favorably impressed with the quality of the rifle. I've always been more partial to the side eject Marlins, but this little Winchester clone is winning me over.

I have a Savage 1899A that's over 110 years old - I like the design very much. I regret not buying at least one modern version before production ended. I had an opportunity to pick up a new 99 CD in 1983 for a good price, and regret to this day that I passed.

The BLR is a great rifle, but I could never get past its looks. Just doesn't do it for me, nothing against it in any real measure. Not a big fan of removable box magazines on lever guns, either, which probably influenced my decision to pass on the 99 CD.

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That Chiappa 44 mag is sweet! I like that rear sight too. Probably illegal here in Cali tho.
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Old 04-21-2017, 01:45 PM
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That Chiappa 44 mag is sweet! I like that rear sight too. Probably illegal here in Cali tho.
Yes, the ladder sight on the Chiappa is quite good for short range - the sight picture in the folded position is excellent. However, for some unknown reason, the notch in the leaf in the raised position is really poor - a very shallow V that doesn't work at all.

I just installed a Marble tang peep this week, so the ladder sight is being removed. The tang peep increases the sight radius on this little carbine to nearly the same as the barrel sighted 20" models.

Yeah, Canada has really screwed up gun laws. We can't carry handguns at all, but well can buy short barrel rifles and shotguns without restriction. As long as it's 26" overall or longer, in shooting configuration, barrel length is irrelevant.

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Old 04-22-2017, 02:48 PM
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I didn't spend any time at the Henry display booth because of the large crowd there.

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Yes, always much too crowded; that's why nobody goes to their displays.

Over the past 50 years or so, I've hunted and killed lots and lots of game with Winchester, Marlin and Savage lever rifles. I like them all and have them from .22LR to 45/70. But of all the lever rifles I think the 99 Sav is tops. I've taken more deer with my M99A .250/3000 than with all my other lever actions combined. Quite a few lever guns out there I've never even shouldered, much less fired. I just can't see anything improving on the M99.
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Interesting to hear that the Rossi Rio Grande was on display. It was dropped from the catalog two years ago but appeared in the current year catalog as "seasonal." Word on the street was that the plant was being relocated.

My RG4570 is sweet, took a hog with it in the wee hours of Friday morning. Those that know me know that I a 444 Marlin Nut but since I bought the RG, it has seen more use than either of my 444s!
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Yes, always much too crowded; that's why nobody goes to their displays.
how come it's crowded if nobody goes?
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Speaking of current lever actions, has anyone gotten their hands on a Henry Long Ranger yet? I'd be curious if one of the serious lever-action guys could compare/contrast it to a well-made Marlin or Winchester.
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Speaking of current lever actions, has anyone gotten their hands on a Henry Long Ranger yet ?

I'd be curious if one of the serious lever-action guys could compare/contrast it to a well-made Marlin or Winchester.

A gunwriter, posting over on the leverguns.com forum, submitted a range report on the Henry L.R.


It's not comparable with a Marlin or a Winchester because the Henry Long Ranger chambered for hi-powered bottle-neck cartridges, has a detachable magazine, and has a rotary-locking bolthead like the Browning BLR, but with a much lower price point than the BLR - it's real competition.


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Old 04-28-2017, 02:32 AM
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A gunwriter, posting over on the leverguns.com forum, submitted a range report on the Henry L.R.


It's not comparable with a Marlin or a Winchester because the Henry Long Ranger chambered for hi-powered bottle-neck cartridges, has a detachable magazine, and has a rotary-locking bolthead like the Browning BLR, but with a much lower price point than the BLR - it's real competition.


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Fair points all, but I guess I was just referring to fit, finish, and overall "feel", which I know is a pretty subjective thing to begin with.

I'm having a harder and harder time picturing my gun safe w/o one of those new Henry rifles in it...
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I've not handled or seen one in person as of yet. I have found them for sale pretty regular now online and have been impressed with the quality of wood on just about everyone I've seen.

As far as price, I've seen them listed at about $789 and that's about 100-$125 less than a comparable BLR. One thing to consider might be that the BLRs come with decent sights while the Henry does not.

I'm holding out for the upcoming release of the Henry single shot rifle which I hope to make the foundation for a nice, compact rifle in .338 Fed for me.
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The single shot hasn't been released yet? Dang.
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Old 04-29-2017, 03:42 AM
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I looked at a Long Ranger at a gun shop in South Texas; it was a very nice rifle (everything about it). They had the 308 Win and 41 Mag Steel; it took everything I had to walk out of there without buying both. I think the next day was the toughest, I almost called them.

Then, yesterday I found an M94 XTR Big Bore chambered in 444 Marlin. Beautiful rifle. Then there is the Pedersoli Boarbuster (444 Marlin), Wholesale Hunter has them in stock. Ugh.
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Old 05-06-2017, 06:59 PM
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Don't sell the Mossberg 464 short. I have had mine for about six years and it is a heck of a shooter with cast lead bullets despite its "plain jane" appearance. It hits milk jugs with ease at 250 yards and gongs at 400 with iron sights, of course.. I bought mine on sale for cheap as a truck rifle and got a heck of a lot more than I paid for. A Skinner peep sight really made the rifle sing.
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My nephew has a Mossberg 464 featuring a marine finish and pistol grip stock. A very attractive and accurate carbine. We hunt together in Maryland and he has taken several deer with his 30-30.

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I handled a Henry Long Ranger at the NRA convention in Louisville last year and recently a LGS got one in which allowed me to examine it more thoroughly. The wood, fit and finish were very nice and I will probably own one at some point in the future. IMO, it is the nicest looking rifle Henry has made to date.
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