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Old 05-06-2017, 09:36 PM
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How much a person wants to talk other people has exactly no bearing on the size of their ego, nor skill level, nor intelligence, nor anything else. Some people like to run their mouths constantly and never tire of it; some do not. It is simply one of many independent 'personality variables' and to judge multiple aspects of a person's personality by one particular thing is a rather shallow mistake, in my opinion.

If you want to learn something about quiet people, go read a book called "The Introvert Advantage." Just be prepared to find out how little you know about people who don't talk constantly. It might even help you professionally.
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Introvert advantage reads like a manual for a support group that just wants a hug.
The problem with introverts is that there boring and don't play well with others in the sandbox, some are bright, some are idiots, just like extroverts, unlike everyone else though almost none of them are interesting people, sure if you want to spend 5 years trying to get to know one maybe you could identify a few.
It's pretty obvious that I'm an extrovert, in light of that I'll cherry pick a couple of fun facts.
Extroverts tend to lead happier lives.
Extroverts make more money.
And finally most serial killers are introverts, yay there's group to be proud to have something in common with, sure there's a few notable exceptions like Gacy and Bundy but there are exceptions to anything.
Wow, has this thread went off the rails!!!
I'll be at a shooting tournament all day tomorrow so have fun with this.

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Old 05-07-2017, 07:20 AM
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Wow, that's all very interesting. We can make generalizations about extroverts too, the first one being that there's a lot they 'think' they know about introverts but are too busy running their mouths to realize how clueless they really are. They live their lives superficially.

They just 'think' they're happier than introverts. I've never heard a bigger crock.

No, extroverts make better salesmen. That's why we introverts hire extroverts to sell what we make. Who's making more money now???

They talk a **** of a lot but really have very little to say.

Many are extroverted to hide in plain sight.

They aren't very observant.

Comedians are extroverts and tend to be a very depressed, often suicidal sort. Extroverts often have the appearance of happiness but that's as deep as it goes. Yes, it's a great thing to identify with folks like Robin Williams too.

20yrs of outside sales explains a lot.
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Old 05-07-2017, 08:26 AM
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Said the person with 32,677 posts on a internet forum.
And what does that say about you Dr.?
Introvert advantage reads like a manual for a support group that just wants a hug.
The problem with introverts is that there boring and don't play well with others in the sandbox, some are bright, some are idiots, just like extroverts, unlike everyone else though almost none of them are interesting people, sure if you want to spend 5 years trying to get to know one maybe you could identify a few.
It's pretty obvious that I'm an extrovert, in light of that I'll cherry pick a couple of fun facts.
Extroverts tend to lead happier lives.
Extroverts make more money.
And finally most serial killers are introverts, yay there's group to be proud to have something in common with, sure there's a few notable exceptions like Gacy and Bundy but there are exceptions to anything.
Wow, has this thread went off the rails!!!
I'll be at a shooting tournament all day tomorrow so have fun with this.
I've mentioned several times on the forum I have a computer science degree. So, no, it isn't a surprise that I don't make a living in sales.

Wow, you aren't prejudiced, are you? Extroverts tend to be bad at math and especially understanding statistics... Just sayin'

When you want that rifle rebarreled, just a hint, you'll want someone who can do simple math in their head. It won't be someone in sales...

All the introverts I know are very interesting people... with high paying jobs..... if the yappers around them will shut up long enough they can get a word in edgewise, you can get to know them. And they're all quite happy too. Just because someone is not running their mouth 24x7, it does not mean they are suicidal, depressed, or a failure in life.

Typing is different than talking. Read the book, it's all there. You'll be better at sales if you do. Don't want to read it? I posted that for your benefit, not mine. Heck I'll send you my copy if you will promise to actually read it and think about it. If you don't want to learn, it won't offend me (the reason it won't bother me is in the book too).

Then again if Ross didn't immediately find you interesting and engaging at the show and talk your ear off, well, that must mean he's a fraud. Got it.... didn't know snap judgements were that accurate!!!!



I know several folks to talk to Ross once in a while. To a person, they are quite complementary about him and endorse his skills and ability. Go shoot a cape buffalo with a .45 Colt revolver and get back to us with a full report. Anybody who has made a living as a PH in Africa AND won championship(s) in handgun sports may well know a thing or two.... but you have to listen to learn. Open your mind. Confucius say, "man with mouth open has a closed mind." (pretty sure about that, anyway)
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Amen brother!
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Did I mention that introverts tend to be thin skinned.
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Nope, not at all. We recognize your judgements on us are coming from a lack of understanding of that part of human psychology so you get cut a little slack.

I would have to imagine, when a person is in a field like sales or public relations and success is equated with being outgoing and personable - there is a natural tendency to assume that being outgoing and personable defines success in all other fields. It might in some, and for sure would have nothing to do with success in others.

It can be difficult or even impossible to change one's perspective enough to imagine what traits might define success in fields very different from our own. If you want to look at writers in the firearms field who were also successful PHs in Africa, compare Capstick to Seyfried. Both are favorite writers of mine, yet only one of them would I trust to rechamber or rebarrel a rifle.
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Old 05-07-2017, 03:40 PM
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I appreciate your understanding, were different types of personalities.
Purely anecdotal but I have parties at my house on a regular basis, our introvert friends are certainly not shy about showing up for all of them, they like being entertained by extroverts.
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Old 05-07-2017, 03:42 PM
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Did I mention that introverts tend to be thin skinned.
And extroverts tend to only get quiet when the conversation gets deep. Case in point.


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Nope, not at all. We recognize your judgements on us are coming from a lack of understanding of that part of human psychology so you get cut a little slack.

I would have to imagine, when a person is in a field like sales or public relations and success is equated with being outgoing and personable - there is a natural tendency to assume that being outgoing and personable defines success in all other fields. It might in some, and for sure would have nothing to do with success in others.

It can be difficult or even impossible to change one's perspective enough to imagine what traits might define success in fields very different from our own. If you want to look at writers in the firearms field who were also successful PHs in Africa, compare Capstick to Seyfried. Both are favorite writers of mine, yet only one of them would I trust to rechamber or rebarrel a rifle.
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I have parties at my house on a regular basis...
I wonder about people who need constant validation from others. Sorry but your rhetoric is so transparent it's comical.
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No your transparent, why say your sorry when your really not?
I was merely pointing out that often times introverts have to be dragged kicking and screaming out of there little shells, once outside they have as much fun as anyone, when the event is over they skulk back under there rocks to analyze every minute detail of what happened looking for conspiracies and skullduggery feeling guilt for coming out, reliving it over and over until they peek out again into the traffic of the world.

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Yeah, let's get back to shooting. I admit to derailing the thread here, but no reason to continue that.
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Old 05-09-2017, 07:26 AM
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Amen!, from introvert who likes and owns standard AND magnum calibers.
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I recall reading an article long ago, longer than I can remember by an Alaska hunting guide who had kept records of all the bear killed by his clients, at what range and with what caliber. Overwhelmingly the caliber with the highest percentage of single shot or quick kills was by ... surprise!, the .308. He attributed it to the fact that most shooters can shoot it more accurately than the big boomers. I am sure some shooters can handle the big guns well but that is not the point as they constitute a small minority of shooters. For most shooters, most of the time, less extreme guns are preferable nor are the 'boomers' necessary for success. The fact that one person can do with the 338 RUM what others can do with a 308/30-06 really doesn't impress me.
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I recall reading an article long ago, longer than I can remember by an Alaska hunting guide who had kept records of all the bear killed by his clients, at what range and with what caliber. Overwhelmingly the caliber with the highest percentage of single shot or quick kills was by ... surprise!, the .308. He attributed it to the fact that most shooters can shoot it more accurately than the big boomers. I am sure some shooters can handle the big guns well but that is not the point as they constitute a small minority of shooters. For most shooters, most of the time, less extreme guns are preferable nor are the 'boomers' necessary for success. The fact that one person can do with the 338 RUM what others can do with a 308/30-06 really doesn't impress me.
Success depends on the bear.
AK highway crews will carry a .375 H&H , not for hunting but for stopping a charge.
Hunting doesn't usually involve charging bears----that's what the guide's gun is for.
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We deal with Grizzlies quite a bit-including yesterday. Killed or claimed a horse and we hauled the horse away from the neighbors home place. These bears seldom charge and if they did most shooters would never hit it without a scattergun. A short,very handy,easy to point shotgun. When they do run towards you most would never get a shot-they can be so quick. Often bears that are killed around here are certainly not charging.They are killed for no good reason and this comes out of our hunting allocation. It curtains our hunting opportunities.I am talking about Grizzlies.

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This horse has pretty well been beaten to death.

Time to close. Thanks to all who posted meaningful comments.
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