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Old 09-04-2014, 10:09 AM
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actually I find the Glock stuff far more annoying than the 1911 stuff
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When all of us old geezers were kids, the costs of printing and mailng an 80-100 page magazine were nothing compared to todays prices. That is why advertising gradually overwhelmed gun mags, along with every other topical magazine. Generally, two pages of ad sales pay for one page in the magazine.

Subscription costs dont come close to covering expenses. Now, with most magazines hiring additional staff for digital versions, publishers have those additional costs. Without ads, youd be paying $25-$50 per issue. A magazine that cant be a business success first won't be publishing any editorial at all.
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Advertising certainly is top priority in the gun rags today. I'm old enough to remember reading O'conner and Keith and other GOOD writers who took you on the hunt with them. You smelled the pines, saw the vistas, heard the river and they described the rifle and load they used and how it performed. Those were the good old days!
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advertising certainly is top priority in the gun rags today. I'm old enough to remember reading o'conner and keith and other good writers who took you on the hunt with them. You smelled the pines, saw the vistas, heard the river and they described the rifle and load they used and how it performed. Those were the good old days!

........and so they were!.......
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Well Gunpa, if you knew how many times I bitched about that, you'd be amazed. The above are the only two I read anymore. And I always buy them off the rack, because I don't believe in feedin' a dog before the hunt. That's the problem right there. People buyin' subscriptions, and GREED. The rag owners aren't satisfied with having a popular, well received magazine, and makin' a decent living. They want to live (and hunt) in luxury. We need to stop buying magazines that make advertisements the focus of their rags. Do that, and sooner or later, people who actually LOVE hunting and firearms WILL produce the kinda magazine we love and want.
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Well Gunpa, if you knew how many times I bitched about that, you'd be amazed. The above are the only two I read anymore. And I always buy them off the rack, because I don't believe in feedin' a dog before the hunt. That's the problem right there. People buyin' subscriptions, and GREED. The rag owners aren't satisfied with having a popular, well received magazine, and makin' a decent living. They want to live (and hunt) in luxury. We need to stop buying magazines that make advertisements the focus of their rags. Do that, and sooner or later, people who actually LOVE hunting and firearms WILL produce the kinda magazine we love and want.
Won't happen. Print media is on it's way out and the youtube videos are usually BAD
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there are a few things worth considering. Ken Howell once wrote that during his time with Handloader he did not pay Ken Waters anything near what his article were worth.
Dave Wolfe purchased Handloader when he was with Shooting Times. For many years Handloader magazine, which had its share of advertising did not make a profit. I do not believe the magazine was truly profitable until Dave Scovill took the reigns and changed the format. He saved the magazine but it is different from what it was.
Certainly The American Rifleman, Shooting Times and Guns & Ammo are nothing close to what they were in the 1960's.
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there are a few things worth considering. Ken Howell once wrote that during his time with Handloader he did not pay Ken Waters anything near what his article were worth.
Dave Wolfe purchased Handloader when he was with Shooting Times. For many years Handloader magazine, which had its share of advertising did not make a profit. I do not believe the magazine was truly profitable until Dave Scovill took the reigns and changed the format. He saved the magazine but it is different from what it was.
Certainly The American Rifleman, Shooting Times and Guns & Ammo are nothing close to what they were in the 1960's.
Shotgun News is absolutely NOTHING compared to the mid 70s. I didnt read it in the 60s
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Certainly The American Rifleman, Shooting Times and Guns & Ammo are nothing close to what they were in the 1960's.
American Rifleman was ruined when they brought George Martin in from Guns and Blammo. That was the 80s.
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