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Old 05-14-2016, 09:10 PM
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No, smoking is good, really. It let's them live long enough to have a working carrier and then it kills most of them off before they can start collecting social security, Medicade or Medicare.
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Old 05-15-2016, 08:37 AM
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Field stripping a cigarette.

I wish ALL smokers did! It really burns me when I see slobs toss their butts out of car windows, like the world is their ash tray, not to mention how many brush fires it causes. I get double steamed when I find butts on/in my lawn from various slob workers. At least come up with a filter that will bio degrade in under 20 years. I'm no smokers Mother & shouldn't have to pick up after them. Smoke to your lungs content, just leave me out of it.
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Old 05-16-2016, 11:54 AM
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Look, for Gods' sake.
These kids make the decision to risk their lives in the military, vote for the leaders of our country.
How can I tell them with all good conscience not to smoke?????
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you DON'T TELL them.

You do your best to convince them (by example or incentives perhaps) that it would be in their best interest, in the long run, not to smoke.
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Old 06-23-2016, 03:59 AM
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I always enjoy hearing stories from the "old Soldiers". I have been in for almost 16 years now. I can remember when I was younger in my career that cigarettes was a part of a way to overcome sleep deprivation and some stress when I was deployed. I finally made a decision when I turned 25 that my health was more important to my family than smoking was to me. I honestly think Service members should be able to smoke at any age, but I also think they should be given education about the effects. When I was a squad leader I used to tell my guys Take 10, smoke em if you got to, if you got two, give your buddy one.
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Old 06-23-2016, 12:20 PM
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If an 18 year old is mature enough to make the decision to vote and to risk his or her life in our military, they have the right to decide whether to smoke or not.
They're not kids anymore.
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Old 06-23-2016, 12:25 PM
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This law does not effect military bases, anyone 18 or older in the military or dependent can buy on base.
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Old 06-25-2016, 10:54 AM
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You do your best to convince them (by example or incentives perhaps) that it would be in their best interest, in the long run, not to smoke.
I don't tell anyone what to do.
It's elected politicians who are controlled by insurance companies.
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Old 06-27-2016, 09:51 AM
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No doubt smoking cigarettes is bad for your health, but a chronic smoker statistically costs less over his life span because he gets sick earlier in life and dies sooner, unlike the healthy sorts who get procedure after procedure while they live out their elderly years. Rush did a segment on this some years ago and named a couple of Asian countries which subsidize cigarettes for their citizens once they are above a certain age just for that reason.
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Old 08-04-2016, 11:21 AM
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A California law restricts smoking to people under the age of 21.
These kids can vote for the leaders of their country, can risk their lives in service for their country, but they can't smoke??
Stupid!

Jim
Id rather see you risk your life serving the country than risking your life with a worthless pursuit like smoking. Not enough evidence for you to not start or to continue?

The government takes a position on this issue because it is clear that young minds cannot grasp the risk to their lives they are making by choosing smoking. Recall that the brain continues to develop up until about age 25. So, the government is doing this to protect your welfare. And now, with nearly socialized medicine, they are attempting to protect the American public from needless medical expenses associated with caring for smokers and their higher incidences of chronic health issues.
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I wonder what age limit California would set if they legalized marijuana. Probably 18, but 21 for tobacco. Squirrels.
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But KA has lots of money, or they get it from US for those who smoke and need all kinds of body issues fixed.

My wife was talking about this just recently. About 95 one son needed BIG surgery (21 hrs) and we would see smokers in the hosp atrium pushing their IV poles to get there so they can get a smoke??

I wonder if that place is still a smokers paradise? I worked in a small hosp starting in 1970. AM break started about 9 am. By 930 you didnt need to lihght up, just sit down and breath.

In late 90s I was at a meeting and a VP announced that by whatever date we would be smoke free!! I thought he'd been smoking some kind of wild weed. Now the smokers have to go across the street to a bench for their addiction. I never believed it but it is here.
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A former smoker but I quit LONG ago - I watched my father suffer from COPD and need 02 24/7 until he passed away in 2014. STOP NOW!!
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I am a militant non smoker because?

1959 Marine Corps Recrut Depot,San Diego.
DI "Smoking lamp is lit,All non smokers police up area"(pick up cig. butts)'
Thanksgiving 1963,Pulling guard duty.Went to mess hall for chow.(highlight of my day)
Sat and was enjoying,Staff Sargeant sits across from me,bitching about everything, takes out cig and lights up.I said,sorry sarg smoking bothers me, and I move down to the end of the table.He pulls his tray and sits across,Then blows smoke in my face.It took 4 guys to hold me down to keep from killing him.Got Busted,because I was on duty.Carrying a sidearm.

Still a little touchy about smokers.Randy
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Old 08-06-2016, 11:47 AM
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1959 Marine Corps Recrut Depot,San Diego.
DI "Smoking lamp is lit,All non smokers police up area"(pick up cig. butts)'
Thanksgiving 1963,Pulling guard duty.Went to mess hall for chow.(highlight of my day)
Sat and was enjoying,Staff Sargeant sits across from me,bitching about everything, takes out cig and lights up.I said,sorry sarg smoking bothers me, and I move down to the end of the table.He pulls his tray and sits across,Then blows smoke in my face.It took 4 guys to hold me down to keep from killing him.Got Busted,because I was on duty.Carrying a sidearm.

Still a little touchy about smokers.Randy
A little over the top, Randy!!!!
Come on man, grow up.
You'd kill a man because he smoked cigarettes?????
Give me a break!!
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Old 08-07-2016, 06:01 AM
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Well EH I think you missed the point I could care less that he smoked, but blowing smoke In my face was a bit confrontational.And he paid for it.I do not know what your back ground is, But I could not at that time " turn the other cheek"
And I am all growed up,I did that over seas in combat.
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Id rather see you risk your life serving the country than risking your life with a worthless pursuit like smoking. Not enough evidence for you to not start or to continue?

The government takes a position on this issue because it is clear that young minds cannot grasp the risk to their lives they are making by choosing smoking. Recall that the brain continues to develop up until about age 25. So, the government is doing this to protect your welfare. And now, with nearly socialized medicine, they are attempting to protect the American public from needless medical expenses associated with caring for smokers and their higher incidences of chronic health issues.
So, with that theory, we should not let young people into the military until they're over 25??
You're trying to turn this into a political agenda.
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Old 08-11-2016, 12:47 PM
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I wonder what age limit California would set if they legalized marijuana. Probably 18, but 21 for tobacco. Squirrels.
Don't know about CA, but 21 in CO. Don't use the stuff or even recognize the odor which an LEO friend told me is sweetish.
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Old 08-11-2016, 02:42 PM
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Don't know about CA, but 21 in CO. Don't use the stuff or even recognize the odor which an LEO friend told me is sweetish.
I guess you could email or text presidential candidate Gary Johnson and ask about the smell. He claims he quit smoking pot for his run to the White House.

Maybe they'll build him a new one in Co. if he wins. I'll be watching to see what happens....
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Well EH I think you missed the point I could care less that he smoked, but blowing smoke In my face was a bit confrontational.And he paid for it.I do not know what your back ground is, But I could not at that time " turn the other cheek"
And I am all growed up,I did that over seas in combat.
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Thanks for your service, Randy.
Most of us here (as I) also served our Country.
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