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Old 05-17-2017, 04:31 PM
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Hi Chg, there are a couple different versions of the Claude Dallas story. I have heard/read one, and you have obviously heard another. I wasn't there, and I don't guess you were either, but, I certainly wouldn't brag on a murderer.
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Old 05-17-2017, 06:03 PM
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You're joking right? I spent the first 15 years of my life in S. Cal. was kidnapped twice and saved my sisters friend from being taken. Couldn't even risk reporting the incidents for fear of being charged with a crime for using my weapon to defend. Low crime, compared to what?

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Old 05-17-2017, 06:17 PM
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"newcomers" trying to change it into the rathole they came from.

I believe that's what the Native Americans said of the white man. Homo Sapien stole it from Cro magnun.
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Old 05-17-2017, 06:37 PM
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I've lived in TN, KY, IL,TX, AL, AK, MT, CA, LA, NC, KS, NY and ID. Plus a couple or three foreign countries. And, I've hunted in several more. They all have their attributes and their detriments. But, Idaho sux the most. You've been warned.
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Old 05-17-2017, 08:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Cheezywan View Post
Friendly. Low crime rate. Level-headed, honest, citizens. Low cost of living.

your kidding right?
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Old 05-18-2017, 04:09 AM
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Being a Texan, Texas of course. BUT! it sorta depends on what part of the state you live in. Albertaguide mentioned West Texas BBQ. Many do not realize that there are several differnet regional varieties of BBQ in Texas. There is the aforementioned West Texas BBQ, which is smoky, not so highly seasoned, relying more on the mesquite smoke that seasonings. Then there is East Texas BBQ, a remnant of when the BBQ was cooked by slaves, in the Southeast US. Much more seasonings, more likely to use live oak, or some other woods. Then you get South Texas, much more Mexican influence, more likely to encounter the ubiquetous jalapeno, again on mesquite. In between you have German influenced, rom the south central part of the state. Live oak, with a smattering of mesquite thrown in. Before I get off into a war, let me say that they are ALL delicious, and only a BBQ snob such as myself would ever try to sub-catergorize them so.
The biggest difference one will see in the state are not statewide, but more oriented to the type of area you find yourself in. I was raised in West Texas, which is VERY conservative, generally. As is ANY rural part of the state. Thus you start to see the BIG difference being whether you live in a major population center or a more rural setting. People in Austin, or Dallas, can get as liberal as any Yankee ever thought about, but the difference of just a neighborhood can drastically change that. Folks in Houston or Ft. Worth are much more conservative, generally, than their neighbors in Dallas or Austin.
Austin actually has a popular motto, "Help Keep Austin Weird". It is, and they do.
Public lands here, as for hunting, are nearly non-existent, so shooting on them is also, non-existent. Use to be, one could go to a dump, or a river bank, or such an out of the way place, and plink or shoot the afternoon away. Not anymore. So much land has been bought up by urban refugees and outsiders, and so much abuse has been meeted out by inconsiderate redneck oafs, that the river banks are all carefully policed, and the dumps are off limits because of liability problems.
But Texas is still one of the most gun friendly states in the union. Go figure.
Game is plentiful, so much so that car accidents are quite frequent between commuters and deer or hogs. And livestock. Gamebirds are plentiful, but the size of the state means you may have to travel all day to get to one birds area or the other. I travel eight hours from the central part of the state to get to pheasant hunting. Waterfowl is generally four hours the other way. Most states, four hours puts you in another state entirely.
Scenery, the state has everything EXCEPT snowcapped mountains. Or any decent mountains at all. Desert, plains, swamp, delta, beach, flat farmland, or hill country, we got it. But it's early ALL privately owned. So look, but ask before you tromp through it.
The state didn't suffer as badly as some during the recent economic recession, which is NOT to say that we didn't see any slump at all. We did. But it appears that he worst is over. We hope.
Weather? In the panhandle winters, you can see whiteout blizzards, and 100 degree+ summers. Down south, I've eaten tomatoes, ripe off the vine, picked Christmas Day. Everything in between. I personally, living in Central Texas, have never in 61 years seen a white Christmas. Used to think that was a bad thing. I've learned better. Shoveling snow can't be fun at 61 years old. It gets hot. It gets dry. It gets muddy. You can stick your stupid tail in the mud if you think 4 wd will go anywhere anytime. But usually we get anywhere we need to anytime.
Fish any day of the year if that's what you wanna do. Panfish, bass, catfish, even trout in a few streams, but I think those are planted. Along the Gulf Coast, anything you think you can afford is available.
Like the travel brochure says, "Texas! Like a whole nuther country!" Several of em, to be exact.
If we can just keep California from moving here, we might be alright.
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Old 05-18-2017, 05:02 AM
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Florida. It's the shortest drive to work.

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Old 05-18-2017, 06:35 AM
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My all-time favorite is the State of Bliss but I somehow got tangled up in the State of Confusion and been here ever since.

I like to be left alone and be alone. Where Idaho, Utah and Nevada comes together fits the bill.

Claude Dallas shot and killed two unarmed Idaho Game wardens. I don't he's anything to brag about.
There was one warden (a hated bully with a badge) and a ride-a-long FROM Nevada, but in Idaho to (again) harass a guy that wanted to live alone.
Claude Dallas would have been acquitted had he been tried in Humbolt County.

He's out now and alone again.

The best synopsis of the Claude Dallas case is the song by Ian Tyson. It's on youtube.
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Old 05-18-2017, 11:15 AM
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I've lived in CA, OR and ID and am enjoying ID far better than any other place I've lived. I'm currently is discovery mode and just enjoying the many opportunities that ID has and is continuing to provide me. Although I'm not a native, this is where I call HOME. :-)
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Old 05-18-2017, 12:11 PM
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Northern Nevada. Anything south of Tonopah has succumbed to the cancer of liberalism. I moved here from northern Virginia to have a place to shoot, and to escape the brutality of the summer humidity around Winchester, VA. I live in a small and quiet town. I can drive just four or five miles, and I'm so "far out" in the desert that I can blast away with any commonly-available firearm and no one will say obama to me. No state income tax. No smog checks outside of Washoe and Clark counties. 300 days of sun per year. Humidity when it isn't raining is around twenty percent. That's a yuge benefit for a 300-pound hog like me. About as far from delivering to the grocery warehouses in New Jersey as I can get.

I came to Nevada to get away from 1) East Coast humidity, 2) no place to shoot and 3) having to deliver 18-wheelers full of groceries to New Jersey grocery warehouses that were built when there were no twin-screw sleeper-cab tractors and no 53-foot trailers. Those are my three reasons. Each is of equal importance to me. I truly enjoy living in Nevada. I am at my most happy here, compared to any other place I've ever lived. I'll be buried in our family plot in Winchester, VA... but only after I've lived the fullest of lives in the "Snowy Place."
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Old 05-18-2017, 12:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Cheezywan View Post
Friendly. Low crime rate. Level-headed, honest, citizens. Low cost of living.

This dude must have crawled off the wrong end of the bed this AM and then his toast was burned rather characoally.
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Old 05-18-2017, 12:21 PM
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For me it comes down to the difference between conservative and liberal thinking on individual freedom.

Montana would be first hands down for its diversity of topography, beauty and wildlife. Less so for the California influence with its liberal views on guns and wildlife. Too many Californians are moving into the state and bringing their views with them!

Wyoming would be second because of its conservative views on individual freedom and wildlife. Although Wyoming also has some beautiful topography no state can beat Montana for its overall beauty.

Idaho would be third, also because of its conservative views on individual freedom as well as wildlife. However, I much prefer to be on the east side of the Continental Divide because of its more abundant sunshine and dryer climate.
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Old 05-18-2017, 01:46 PM
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"Northern Nevada"

That is where I would be if I were single
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Old 05-18-2017, 05:25 PM
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The best synopsis of the Claude Dallas case is the song by Ian Tyson. It's on you tube.
Yep I like Ian Tyson in general and this song - I followed the Claude Dallas situation back in the 'day' when I spent a lot of time in the woods and alone myself.

AND - FWIW I do not agree with what he did but I certainly understand and identify with why it happened...

The movie 'Manhunt for Claude Dallas' is not particularly a bad docu-drama either with a fairly unbiased script.

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Old 05-18-2017, 05:41 PM
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Montana: and Alberta are identical twins. They have better gun laws, we have better health care ;0)
The Bob Marshal Wilderness, and the Chinaman's Wall.

Idaho; Good mountainous country, Elmer Keith, Decker packing, Red Neck political ideals..
These two choices for sure: excellent gun laws, down to earth PEOPLE, very few libtards and just an awesome place to live ...especially The Bob Marshall Wilderness, truly heaven on earth. Snowed 6" yesterday and 70 and sunny today, I love it.
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Old 05-18-2017, 08:36 PM
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Georgia. No desire to live anywhere else.
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Old 05-18-2017, 08:41 PM
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Texas & SC Great Weather & Gun Laws, Great Hunting etc Some Great Friendly Woman , Also
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Old 05-18-2017, 09:03 PM
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I live in Texas because that is where family is, but my heart is still in Wyoming. Wyoming is friendly, low taxes, crazy weather, great public hunting and fishing areas, great sight seeing, low cost of living with low crime and so far, no illegal or immigrant issues. Love all the Rocky Mtn. states, and I am learning to love Texas.
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Old 05-19-2017, 04:04 AM
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Someone's been drinking the kool-aide; California is anything but cost effective,high cost of living, one of the highest in the US and as far as crime, please explain Oakland California, on of the highest murder rates in the country. Level-headed, anything but, some of the worst anti gun laws in the country.
And the turds leaving, several million in the past few decades, are moving to Colorado and trying to make it like California.
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Old 05-19-2017, 07:39 AM
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And the turds leaving, several million in the past few decades, are moving to Colorado and trying to make it like California.
Why would liberals leave the paradise for liberals, California? It's mostly the conservatives who are fleeing California to move to a free state. When visiting in Idaho I ran into more retired L.A. Sheriff's deputies that I run into in L.A. You shouldn't paint with so broad a brush. About 40% of Californians are conservative and 20% hard core. Your state probably trends 60-40 the other way. While elk hunting in Montana in 2008, I spent an evening trying to talk our ranch house cook into not voting for Obama to no effect. He was native born Montana and me native born California and had views opposite those most people would suppose just by where we grew up.

By the way, liberal Californians cannot imagine living in what they consider uncouth states full of hillbillies like anywhere east of the Pacific states until reaching the Atlantic states and nowhere south of Maryland. When they end up anywhere else, it was not a matter of choice for them.

If I could transfer the entire population of California to Texas and the entire population of Texas to California, California would be, by far, the best state to live in.
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