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#1 ·
ok everyone, due to my financial situaton and my wife only letting me have three guns at a time till we graduate, i have sold one of my rifles for a new handgun.
Guns i have owned:
Desert eagle .50AE, sweetest gun in the world, ammo cost alot, sold due to costs
Walther P99c, very nice 9mm compact, gun kicked more than my buddys 45, long sold.
curretnly own no handgun, a rifle and shotty

I am now in limbo on deciding what new handgun i should buy,
a buddy recommended that plastic FN5.7, i told him i dont want a kids toy or id buy NERF. Weight of the gun doesnt matter, hence the DE, 9mm was for the wifey to shoot.
the Wifey did said i can get another DE but its quite costly.

Any ideas of any high end handguns? Thanks everyone
 
#2 ·
The FN is no "kid's toy" - just ask all the victims from the Fort Hood Shooting. Not sure what you mean by "high end" - if it is just a function of $$$ then get a Wilson Combat 1911. For me a high end gun is a Freedom Arms .45 Colt.
 
#7 ·
exactly.
There are many, many fine firearms out there, new and used. There are the 'high end' Kimbers, Wilsons and STI just to think of a few, but in my eyes I'd rather have the function and fit of the firearm be more important than the price.
Some of the 'best' guns I own cost less than 300 bucks.
Stainless Ruger security six in 357 for $125
Marlin 39 for $75
My Winchester model 12 in 16 gauge for a mere$25 bucks
A Glock 23 with 3 mags for $300.

Think about what you really want, and it's intended use.

There's nothing wrong with buying and investing in 'safe queens', but the return on that investment may take a really long time.
 
#5 ·
More Info Please

karl,karl,karl,.....ya gotta tell us what it will be used for. Will the shooter/owner be you?? Fun gun,range gun,hunter,SD and/or HD,used in conjunction with a CWP ?? Off the top of my head I'd say you need a Magnum Research BFR chambered in .45-70.

Come on man....lay it out. -----pruhdlr
 
#8 ·
sorry for the delay

sorry for the delay folks, well gun wil be used for range shooting, self defence, mostly range shooting and cowboy shooting. For hunting i prefer to use a rifle round. well im just looking for something new, nice and by high end i dont just mean expensive dollar amount. a high end gun are the higher quality guns, ie DE, H&K, kimbers. thus the more attention to detail and metallurgy quality usually means more costs. and jmortimer any gun can be used in an incident like that. pruhdlr i did put some thought into the S&W .500 anti bear gun. but thats just crazy haha, probly just go for a DE again if i go that route. i just shot a buddies kimber 1911, nice shoots well. never shot the wilson 1911.
 
#30 ·
sorry for the delay folks, well gun wil be used for range shooting, self defence, mostly range shooting and cowboy shooting.
Well, for cowboy shooting you need a wheel gun. That's more my type of gun.
When you say defense, if you are talking about packing, I would say a Ruger Vaquero in 45 colt with the barrel that's a little over 4 1/2" long.
If you are talking about at home defense, go with a longer barrel that's easier to shoot.

I think you are probably thinking of a semi auto though more than cowboy.

When you say quality handgun, two things come to mind to me. Colt SAA and magnum research BFR.
Not that Ruger and many others aren't quality. Hard to beat Ruger for quality and value.
 
#9 · (Edited)
hot carl if your still checking this post, here's something to think about. I have a S&W 325 PD in 44 spl. I bought at Thunder Ranch. Its a fine piece of machinery, accurate, functional and goes bang every time. I have a Taurus 2-431in 44 spl that doesnt have the sights,fit and finish but it goes bang every time and like the 325 hits where it points. The difference is about $ 1000.00. thats about 27 boxes of Blazer 200 grain Gold Dot ammo to train with.
 
#12 ·
Katie lets me buy just about any thing I want or need, she gets the same treatment. I would settle into a nice Kimber or a Wilson 1911. If you want a DA pistol buy a SIG, I have a P220 that I would take over many of the "combat" 1911s.

Jerry
 
#13 ·
ive seen the S&W325PD but never shot it, ill see if someone will let me test fire theirs. i got a buddy with i think a .40 cal sig. ill give them a shot, literally haha. thanks for the ideas. the 325 is a great idea, i totally forgot about it, oh i have anothe choice that opend up fo me, a fully auto british sten from WWII. 9mm. never thought id see one for sell here.
thanks
when we graduate from school i can have more, budget, three guns, after graduation, budget=many many many guns to safe full.
 
#15 ·
Karl , I still think you're confusing Quality and COST .:confused: I don't know if you've owned many " working man's guns" but it doesn't sound like it. You're missing out on increasing the size of your arsenal for the same price as one "QUALITY" gun. I own nothing but QUALITY guns!;) And I'M left with enough money to buy lots of ammo components and more QUALITY guns.:)
 
#19 · (Edited)
please read my begining posts, i am a working man whos married and is currently a student going for my masters in chemical engineering.
dont say im confused, for my composites and metaloids class my final project, i tested the metal from my friends glock .40, H&K 45 compact tactical, my walter P99c(before i sold it), my saiga12 gauge shotgun, my grandfathers 1946 45 long revolver, and the new ontario marine knife. yea im confused because a glock will never live long enough to be past down to my next generation.
inital quality = more cost= high end firearm.
i know quality vs cost, if you really want to compare a working mans gun, its a disposable glock, fairly reliable, cheap, and disposable. i can pick them up for dirt cheap if i wanted a gun i didnt care about its a good choice.
next your gonna tell me to go buy a cheap *** 200 peice of crap. you get what you pay for, would you buy a ten thousand dollar car knowing it wont last without costly repairs in the near furture or replacements?

for those who recomened the 325 thanks, i finally got to shoot one, nice, may get it. and everyone will hate me for this,
but
IF YOU HAVE NOT PURCHASED A HIGH END FIREARM OR SHOT ONE, TRY IT, AND SEE THE REAL DIFFERENCE BEWTEEN LOW END AND HIGH END FIREARMS.

ps. sigs are nice too was looking at the compact 40, my old neighboor carries it as his concield.
thanks and goodbye, and dont say **** about my wife, im sorry i have a good relationship with my wife. i agree with our gun rule, we are on a income till we graduate and aquire a higher paying job. and yes i have asked several gunsmiths, glockmonger was the first, bought my saiga from him.
 
#16 ·
I like the way gunpa put it. The Springfield 1911A1 I just got is every bit as good as any Kimber, Wilson or Colt and cost 1/2 as much. My only "high end gun" is my Sendero SFII in 300RUM.

RJ
 
#18 ·
you an your wifes a team..but this bit about ,,wife won t let me,kinda
sent a red flag up for me..do your duty in you marriage.. i doubt thats to be letting her be your mamma..
now i alway jokingly said stuff like that also..but that was just off the cuff ,,bantering an such..
your job as good, husband,, father an yes head of household,,needs to be the reality.. at least in my world..
trying to suggest a new handgun is a question you gonna get a different answer from many people..mabe ask several gunsmiths. slim
ps now i can tell you a mod 60 S&W,is the best ,in reality..my reality:D
 
#21 ·
and i agree, asking most of the peole here was a mistake. most of the folks here are looking for the cheapest form of shooting entertainment.
GO SHOOT A 22 CALIBER IF YOU WANT TO SAVE MONEY
its like asking a question about proper stock for a short barreled gun and you get asked is it legit or illegal. read a post earlier about that. answer his question if its illegal he will loose it when he is caught with it and go to jail.
why do most of you think you should scrutinize people when they ask a question? its a question for you to ask self and dont respond here this post.
again i thank those who responded with constructive advice and ideas.
 
#23 ·
and i agree, asking most of the peole here was a mistake. most of the folks here are looking for the cheapest form of shooting entertainment.
GO SHOOT A 22 CALIBER IF YOU WANT TO SAVE MONEY
its like asking a question about proper stock for a short barreled gun and you get asked is it legit or illegal. read a post earlier about that. answer his question if its illegal he will loose it when he is caught with it and go to jail.
why do most of you think you should scrutinize people when they ask a question? its a question for you to ask self and dont respond here this post.
again i thank those who responded with constructive advice and ideas.
You're close......actually, they want something for nothing....which is why the "just as good" crowd is "just confused". Bang = Bang not quite. So your ability in all things metal has taken you into the land of General Custom. Take a look at the 1911's that Wilson, Dawson, Limcat, Brown, and Baer are putting together and you'll get it. Then you'll get young Willy and his out of the box Taurus sayin "yep, mine do the same thing fo haf da money"......if he means uses the same ammo, then he's correct on all accords.....

There's a big difference between assembled parts and fitted......
 
#24 ·
hot karl believe you stated gun wil be used for range shooting, self defence, mostly range shooting and cowboy shooting. And you didn't like the cost of shooting the DE.

Here's my suggestions, Thunder Ranch/Clint Smith ran a course using the SA for self defense

Ruger Blackhawks
Gary Reeder Custom Blackhawks
Freedom Arms revolvers (make both fixed and adj sighted in cals besides .454)
Colt 1873 Peacemake
USFA 73' revolvers

Hope this helps.

CD
 
#27 · (Edited)
The problem hot karl is that you start off by saying the FN caliber is a "toy," and again, just ask the victims of the Ft. Hood massacre. What's up with that? After that you spout off about the Desert Eagle as if that is the be all end all of handguns. You then set out your "laundry list" for disparate uses and then you go and bash the forum. For most, not me, "self-defense" and "cowboy shooting" are oxymorons so I recommended two - a Wison Combat 1911 and Freedom Arms .45 Colt. By definition "cowboy guns" are single action and self-defense is a DA revolver or semi-auto pistol. Now if you hand load or buy some high end +P ammunition like Buffalo Bore the Freedom Arms in .45 Colt or in .454 is much "more gun" than you have ever used so be careful. As far this forum there is more knowledge/experience here, especially considering the moderators who post often, then any other Forum per capita. I like revolvers and consider Freedom Arms to be the best but the Wilson Combat, Kimbers, et al are real nice semi-autos. You also, could not go wrong with a .45 ACP Sig or most any S&W which are both "high-end" quality manufacturers. You were given lots of good advice.
 
#32 ·
Ruger and high end rarely collide in the same sentence, except to describe what they're not. Karl, sounds like metallurgy is clouding your vision. Try fecalogy, as in knowing the difference between that and shinola. An engineering degree doesn't help much in the way of firearms knowledge. If it did, you wouldn't be asking on a forum. Hope you can get your loans paid off.
 
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