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Old 07-08-2016, 05:39 PM
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Get both you can't go wrong !
Calm or windy you would have both options covered.
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Old 07-15-2016, 06:33 PM
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I use either my Ruger 77 in 257 Roberts with 90gr. Sierra Blitzkings,
Or my Stevens 200 in 7mm-08AI with 139gr. SST's...
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Old 07-16-2016, 05:43 AM
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I use either my Ruger 77 in 257 Roberts with 90gr. Sierra Blitzkings,
Or my Stevens 200 in 7mm-08AI with 139gr. SST's...
Don't have either. Knew two hunters who considered the 257 Roberts the best deer cartridge, but don't know what bullet they used.

Replaced the scope on my .22-250, but haven't had a chance to shoot it since. If it shoots well, I'll probably donate the old Redfield Illuminater to a charity (wouldn't want to sell a bad scope to someone I know even though I paid over $300 for it about 35 years ago).

Neither the .243 or .22-250 will go along to PA this fall, as I'll be archery hunting deer, but may take a .22 Mag RF and .358 Win along. The former for possible squirrel and turkey and the latter in case I decide to stay for the rifle bear season. Both the .22-250 and .243 would be legal for bear there, but there is one there that was 400+ pounds there three years ago when I saw him (not in season) and he's been seen several times since by neighbors and not taken. I have no interest in shooting a small one and consider even the .243 too small for him.
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Old 07-16-2016, 08:17 AM
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Don't have either. Knew two hunters who considered the 257 Roberts the best deer cartridge, but don't know what bullet they used.

Replaced the scope on my .22-250, but haven't had a chance to shoot it since. If it shoots well, I'll probably donate the old Redfield Illuminater to a charity (wouldn't want to sell a bad scope to someone I know even though I paid over $300 for it about 35 years ago).

Neither the .243 or .22-250 will go along to PA this fall, as I'll be archery hunting deer, but may take a .22 Mag RF and .358 Win along. The former for possible squirrel and turkey and the latter in case I decide to stay for the rifle bear season. Both the .22-250 and .243 would be legal for bear there, but there is one there that was 400+ pounds there three years ago when I saw him (not in season) and he's been seen several times since by neighbors and not taken. I have no interest in shooting a small one and consider even the .243 too small for him.
An interesting and surprising thing the NYSDEC reported is that most bears shot and harvested had been shot several times in the past...all non lethal hits and maybe not even during hunting season. My guess it's not a caliber problem, it's a "where you hit them problem". Big bear have a LOT of fat on them and a lot of meat on the bones. A bad angle with a light bullet (or poorly constructed bullet) could cause some problems. Just something to think about.
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Old 07-16-2016, 08:46 AM
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An interesting and surprising thing the NYSDEC reported is that most bears shot and harvested had been shot several times in the past...all non lethal hits and maybe not even during hunting season. My guess it's not a caliber problem, it's a "where you hit them problem". Big bear have a LOT of fat on them and a lot of meat on the bones. A bad angle with a light bullet (or poorly constructed bullet) could cause some problems. Just something to think about.
I think penetration may be part of the problem. I usually don't pursue bear - don't even bother getting a CO license, but get one for PA in case I'm there in their rifle season or decide to stay for the rifle deer season (if unsuccessful in the archery season) when bear are concurrent some days.

My only experience with shooting a bear was about 35 years ago in Maine when I hunted with a guide with dogs. Shot a treed bear, maybe 200 lbs, three times with OO Buck before it fell out of the tree, then borrowed the guides .357 revolver to shoot it behind the ear to finish it. When skinned, we found many of the buckshot had not penetrated through the fat.
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Old 07-23-2016, 04:19 AM
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I've killed more ground hogs with my 22 MAG than anything else. Most of my shots are at approx 75 yards.

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Old 08-14-2016, 03:30 PM
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Don't forget the Ruger Hawkeye .204..... really fast and hits hard. Hornady 40 gainers shoot great. Use a Nikon 6x18 Buck master variable.

I also have a Remington SS LVSS thum hole 204 with a heavy barrel with a Silver Nikon 6X18 scope on it. But the dang thing is to heavy for a walk around rifle so i am selling it.

NOTHING beats my old Remington HB Model 700 22/250 with Sierra Boat tail hand loads. That puppy shoots in the high 3's..... .380, .375.... and so on.
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Old 03-07-2017, 05:42 PM
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Great question, easy answer.

The short answer, both. I bust chucks 3 nights a week in Pa. and I take something different about every trip. I'm after coyote, but chucks are always available. I just have to remember to put my orange hat on before I shoot. With shots from 50 yards out to 300 or so I can't recall a letdown with either caliber. If I fail, it's on me, not the caliber. As info, the Swift and the 204 both perform as well and when I solve the Creedmoor it will join the hunt.
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Old 03-19-2017, 01:44 PM
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This thread is almost a year old, but thought I'd join in. Hunting chucks has always been something I look forward to when there is time. My first "chuck gun" was a Marlin heavy barreled 22 magnum. Then after watching my friend take one out with a 22-250, I had to have one. Getting them with that rifle (700 VS) wasn't much of a challenge. That gun got traded for an AR back in 2007 when I thought for sure I better get an AR. Today I have a Savage 10PC in 223. Not as fast or flat as the 22-250 but it works well. I load 50 gr varmint grenades because they shoot as good as the 69 gr SMKs out of it. But now the gun I use most at the farm is my Ruger 77/357. It's light, can hold a 1" group at 100 yards, and those 135 gr gold dot short barrel bullets hit ground hogs really hard. Sure the bullet path is nothing like a 223 or 22-250 but I have learned a lot about proper hold-over. I'd guess the path is much like the 22 magnum I used to have. I do have a 110 gr gold dot load using bullseye that duplicates both the 135 grain load and my heavy deer load but is quite a bit quieter.
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My Rem 700 Varmint Special in 22/250 is topped with a Leupold 6x20x 40 MM Scope.
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Old 03-23-2017, 05:39 AM
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I need to get back to the range again before my spring turkey hunting trip to PA and the vultures are probably hungry for woodchuck meals. Last year took the .243 because the scope on the .22-250 developed problems.
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