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Old 08-06-2015, 09:56 PM
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I bought a Weatherby Mark V in 300 Wby Mag from a friend for a very good price. I don't have the money for an expencive scope to put on it. I do have a Burris Fullfield II 3x9 that I put on for now. I'm looking for something with more power maybe a 4x16. My price range maxes out at $300. Any suggestions will help. Btw, I was looking at the Vortex Diamondback. TIA
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Old 08-07-2015, 05:51 AM
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Congratulations on your new rifle! Finding a quality scope with a max power of about 14X for $300 will be a rather daunting task. If you will be using this rifle mainly for hunting purposes, you will likely not need a scope of 12-16X for hunting big game. Another thing to consider would be that as a scope's power and objective lens increase in size, so does the price, proportionally.

For hunting purposes I think many experienced folks would say that a scope with high power of 9 or 10X would be all you'd need for shots as far as 500 yards or more and then, only, if the shooter is up to the task. If you'd like to see a link to a very good price on a high quality 3-9x40 scope (Zeiss Conquest) send me a PM and I'll gladly give you the link for purchase at a great close-out price.

Best of luck with whatever you choose!
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Old 08-07-2015, 06:11 AM
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My 300 has had a couple of scopes on it, started off with a 3x9 Burris ballistic plex . Didn't care for that set up. Now wears my old Leupold VX2 with a standard duplex. And as stated above the Zeiss is a great choice also, have one on my 25-06.
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Old 08-07-2015, 07:08 AM
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You're not going to improve much optically for $300 over the Burris. You'll have to spend twice that for a 4X zoom to see a significant difference.

16X isn't really that useful on a 300, unless it's for varmint hunting...
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Old 08-08-2015, 01:04 PM
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Yes, $300 isn't going to cut it. You will need to cut back on treats and save a few more dollars I'm afraid.
I don't know if you have Hawke scopes in the USA. I have three or four of them and can only say for the price they have served me well for the last 10 to 20yrs on calibres from 17 Remington up to 300H&H and 375JDJ and the last one seriously rattles your false teeth, but has never destroyed any of those scopes to date.
I don't see a need for a higher power than probably x12 for almost all hunting other than maybe very long distances prairie dogs.
I think your going to have to save up and maybe find somewhere in the region of $500 to $600 ...that equates to about 400 here in the UK and would be the minimum if I was looking to buy a new scope.

What make to buy ??? ....well today the worlds your oyster ... at the price I mention there are a long list of good scopes and makers. Put it like this, I have never had a complaint from the customers when using mine and I do not own any expensive glass at all. Mine are all in the 300 to 400 price bracket.

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Many times you get just what you pay for!

Yep, over the years I have been there and done that.

A good combination with the 300 is the Leupold VXIII in 3.5X10

The saying about crying once or crying twice is a good way of looking at this situation.

Buy lessor quality and you may well end up crying twice, where buying something that may pinch the pocket book a bit will only bring on the tears once and the cost is soon forgotten in the joy of quality and long service life.

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Another vote for keeping the power at what you have now.

Re-read Tnhunters post and follow his advice on getting that Zeiss Conquest. Have two Conquests and have to say the optics are the best of all the scopes I've owned. Low light performance is truely unbelievable. The site he refered to has the lowest prices ive ever seen on that scope. Im not exaggerating to say you'd have to spend 4x as much money to get this quality scope in other brands.
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My vote would be the Zeiss,I have a 4x12x42mm mounted on my 25-06 AI and the optics are very good. If you have to wait and save your money it will be worth the effort. I have used the big 50mm objective's and for me they are clumsy,and you will have to mount them very high,and they add weight. Now that is just my opinion,others may disagree.
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50mm objectives may have their place but so far I've found them to be more of a liability than asset.
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Right on MontyF!

In the states that I am acquainted with, the hunting regulations for game hunting indicate that hunting is legal from 1/2 hour before sunrise to 1/2 hour after sun set.

Now, poor quality optics and/or too much magnification can make it difficult to "see" during those tiny portions of time, but beyond those few short minutes even with a 50mm objective you are outside of the legal hunting time slot.

Having been out recently, pre-dawn 4 times starting Aug 1st. in the hopes of taking an early season cow elk, I have a pretty good idea of the light situation during that time period. Walked to my stand in the dark and was sitting there, in the dark, during the 30min or so of pre-dawn light.

During this time, I have at least twice seen a shadow move at a distance of about 100yds, put my OLD Leupold 7X binocs to my eyes and was able to identify the deer moving at that distance.

This is well before official shooting light.

Within minutes, there was enough light to make such identification easy and only minutes later, and still before the 1/2 hour pre-sun rise beginning of "official" shooting light there was plenty of light to have used my 2X7 - non 50mm Leupold scope to make an easy killing shot.

I'm all for quality optics, and have for one reason or another had more then enough opportunity to deal with some of the cheap stuff. So, although I may not buy Zeiss or Leica I still say that buying low end optics is poor economy.

At the level of firearms I buy, it is highly likely that my scope may cost as much or possibly more then my rifle.

I much prefer to cry only once!

As I said earlier, the Leupold VXIII 3.5X10 is a good selection for a 300.

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Old 08-11-2015, 10:42 AM
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Being older [OK Old] and very opinionated, so my wife says,I prefer fixed 6X scopes,but like variables and own several. But my absolutely favorite scope is a B Nickel Surpa in a 6x with a standard cross hair reticle. The only draw back is it has a 26mm tube and this makes it a little harder to find rings. The optics are outstanding. It is mounted with Buehler tall rings and a two piece base. I once had a big German scope a 4x9x62mm mounted on a 22 Cheetah,what a nightmare to mount.
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Jim,

There was a period where a bunch of gun writers were pushing fixed power scopes, pushing the reliability factor.

I did buy into that for a period of time, but as with one of the rifles with a 6X that passed on to a son, it was finally replaced with a 2X7 or 3X9 scope simply due to the smaller field of view issue found in close in/heavy cover hunting.

Hard to beat 2 or 3X if something jumps out close in or being able to dial up 7 or 9X if time and conditions permit.

I got over the fixed power thing, and have for years gone with Leupold variables.

So, this is a to each his own situation, but I like good variables because of their versatility.

However, be sure if there is even a remote possibility of something close, to carry the rifle with the scope set at the lowest power. I missed a bull elk one time and watched the wife miss a chance at a really nice white tail buck because the scope was being carried at a higher power setting.

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Old 08-12-2015, 06:18 PM
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I bought a Weatherby Mark V in 300 Wby Mag from a friend for a very good price. I don't have the money for an expencive scope to put on it. I do have a Burris Fullfield II 3x9 that I put on for now. I'm looking for something with more power maybe a 4x16. My price range maxes out at $300. Any suggestions will help. Btw, I was looking at the Vortex Diamondback. TIA
I'd search the used market for a 3-9x40mm Zeiss. You can even find a quality Diavari-C for your $300 if you look hard enough. I agree with Coot's Leupold 3.5-10x40, as you can find these for around $300 as well. My .300 Wby sports a Zeiss Conquest 4.5-14x44mm that I picked up used for $500. It's superb. If you can save another $200, I'd use the Fullfield until I had the money while I perused the market!
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Old 08-16-2015, 04:38 AM
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I guess I would ask what you intend to do with the rifle before suggesting a scope? But my Mark V deluxe 300 wby
Wears a Luey VX 3 3.5-10x40. I bought the scope used on another forum for $325. It came with the box and papers and had very faintest ring marks which my rings covered. It was purchased new in 2014. It carries a lifetime warranty whoever owns it. Minus finding it used Inwoukd have purchased a new VX 3 in the same power or Possibly a VX 2 in 3-9x40. The new VX 2s are getting great reviews from guys buying them including one of my buds. I was pretty impressed when I looked through his. For general purpose on big game out to 400 yards you cant beat a variable that falls within in the 2.5-12 power ranges. If Im shooting my 300 its gonna be at something large so power beyond 10-12x would be lost on me as well as would any Objective bigger than 40mm as i am 52 years old. To sumarize I never felt under or over scoped sticking to this. I have bought my share of special purpose scopes and everytime I had wished I had just stuck to a quality general purpose variable. Also dont overlook or discount the warranty it comes with.
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I just joined this forum and this is my first post ,but my google search led me here.Ive owned a Remington 700 classic in .300 Weatherby since '89 and ive been through several scopes all were low dollar pieces of junk .and last year i decided I would sell save and do what ever i had to get some decent glass iam on a fixed income but I know i had to turn down shots at game because my eye could no longer see in detail what i was attempting to shoot.So i began the search for glass ,for the longest i
I was dead set on a Nikon prostaff 4x12 and then the sales man showed me the Vortex diamondback hp 4x16x42 mm with dead hold bdc .I have had it now since March 2016, I love its brightness, sharpness the eyebox and relief is very forgiving and field of view is very good .I have been testing loads i made up and using the bdc and my Bushnell arc1300 i can program it to match the Hps hash marks so once sighted in @200 i was able to actually see the steel rams at 500 meter or 550 yards and hit the rams 4 out of 4 shots (thats all my magazine can hold is 3+1).I have been extremely happy with my vortex i believe i paid 329.00 plus tax .i have nothing against other brands but this Hp gave me the best glass incould afford.So far it has held up great with the recoil with well over 500 rounds through it with no hange on poi.
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A nice rifle like that really deserves a quality piece of glass. I'd hold off and save your quarters until you can afford a Ziess.
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Although I think the top glass (Zeiss, Swarovski, etc) is desirable for binoculars, spotting scopes, and extreme long range target shooting). I don't think their price is justified for hunting rifle scopes. I have a 3-9 Leupold on my .300 Wea (replaced a cheaper 4-14 scope) and I'm in the process of replacing cheaper scopes with Leupolds on my other hunting rifles.
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Dont seem to be many Vortex fans here. I think you'd be just fine with a Diamondback but step it up to the HP series. I have 2 of them and they are as good as anything else out there in the price range and better than some costing a lot more. You may not "need" much over a 9x for big game but it sure doesn't hurt either. The 3-12 or 4-16 would work just fine for what you want.
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Dont seem to be many Vortex fans here. I think you'd be just fine with a Diamondback but step it up to the HP series. I have 2 of them and they are as good as anything else out there in the price range and better than some costing a lot more. You may not "need" much over a 9x for big game but it sure doesn't hurt either. The 3-12 or 4-16 would work just fine for what you want.
Agreed +1 i love my HP Vortex!
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With such a nice rifle, I've got one, I'd save up and purchase a Vortex Viper which is the next step up in Vortex scopes. 300 Weatherby's are known for punishing both the shooter and the scope. The rifle has a good deal of recoil and recoil can be the undoing of even some of the best scopes.
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