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Old 11-27-2016, 12:47 PM
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Question Contender Scope/ Mount & Rings?


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I have a contender that was purchased in the Mid 90's. Have a Weaver mount with the see through scope mount rings on a Super 16" 30-30 barrel. At the time the budget did not allow an expensive scope so I opted for an NC Star 2-7x by 32mm. It was never that accurate for me but thought it was the scope base. The taper of the barrel left a gap under the mount and would have some flex movement. A local gunsmith put an additional mounting screw in to hold the mount securely to the barrel.

Now it seems that the scope is very far off, is there a good mount that would replace the weaver mount that someone can suggest they have had good experience with?
Also same for a scope. I'm looking at Nikon Force XR Pistol Scope - 2.5-8X28mm, BDC Reticle

Here in Lower Alabama there are not many places where I hunt to take a long distance shot. About 75yd is the furthest I would probably shoot, but my eyes are not what they used to be so an optic with magnification is a big plus.

Thanks for your help.
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Old 11-28-2016, 07:15 PM
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Here is one place.
Hope it helps.

https://www.midwayusa.com/s?targetLo...3D1%26Ntpr%3D1

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Sounds to me like it's a multi point problem. wrong scope base to start with and the internal workings of the scope has failed under recoil. Both my contender barrels have weaver bases that were made for the contenders. For optics I have gone to the Aimpoint red dot sight for my 30-30. If I came across a good recoil proof pistol scope for the 223 barrel I might go to a variable scope for it.
There is another thread in this section about scopes for the contenders with a lot of info.
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Old 11-30-2016, 12:54 PM
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I agree with 7mmrlc in you having a multi point problem.
Don't remember much, if any, taper on a 'Super 16'. Mine's a 45-70, but it is currently in another state. I have had poor results with 'cheap' scopes on pistols, but good, 'inexpensive' scopes have served me well. A 24x Tasco has watched over a thousand .223 bullets go downrange and a 36x BSA has done as well for 5 or 600 6mm TCU's.
The 'proper' Weaver base is a 92A. Got several of them on various Contender barrels, no problems. Also have a couple of Leupold bases and rings on other barrels, again, no problems.
As jstanfield103 recommended, try Midway as they have an excellent selection. Brownell's is good as well.
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Old 11-30-2016, 02:18 PM
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as said the "The 'proper' Weaver base is a 92A."

weaver mounts are as accurate as any mount system and better than most.

You have a scope problem.

All my accurate contenders use the Weaver system for sub MOA.

Just replace the scope with a Leupold VX-2 2-7x and all your problems will disappear. a Refield is a good low end scope.

Cheap scope have decent lenses and look clear. The mechanicals can fail after one shot or 8 years.
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Old 12-01-2016, 05:05 AM
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Thanks for all the input.
I do have the correct mount Weaver 92A

However after looking more closely it appears that the old NC Star scope is a 30mm diameter with 1" rings cause a gap in the rings to close completely on the tube. This could be the problem.

I bought a Nikon Force XR - 2.5-8X28mm, with the BDC Reticle. I have a Nikon scope on a 7mm Mag rifle and have been happy with it.
Plus I got Warne rings to go with the new scope hope this fixes the problem.
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Old 12-01-2016, 05:08 AM
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sounds like you may have crushed the innardsof the NC scope!
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Old 12-01-2016, 05:22 AM
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Thanks for all the input.
I do have the correct mount Weaver 92A

However after looking more closely it appears that the old NC Star scope is a 30mm diameter with 1" rings cause a gap in the rings to close completely on the tube. This could be the problem.

I bought a Nikon Force XR - 2.5-8X28mm, with the BDC Reticle. I have a Nikon scope on a 7mm Mag rifle and have been happy with it.
Plus I got Warne rings to go with the new scope hope this fixes the problem.
The rings on any scope do not close completely. Measure the scope to determine the diameter. The important thing about this gap is to have it even in all four places (front and rear rings-both sides). I doubt you can get 1" rings to even fit over a 30mm scope. 30mm equals 1.1811"
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Agreed, 1 in scope rings won't go over a 30mm scope at all. You would have to hammer them on.
I have Leupold qr mounts on my scoped handgun barrels because I will switch scopes between barrels since pistol scopes are spendy.
I have 2 Burris scopes, one on a .223 barrel that blows up ground squirrels at 200 yards, and one on my wildcat 7mmL&L. It is a .444 Marlin necked down to 7mm and it pack a wallop. No scope failure at all.
I also have a Leupold 2x scope on my 45-70 barrel.
I have had zero failures over the years after a whole lot of shooting.
You should have no problem with that nikon scope. They seem to be well built.
I may look into them for my .375 JDJ barrel so I can stop swapping the scopes out.
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Many weaver bases require 'fitting' for flush contact with contender barrels.
Seems the arc of the base's face doesn't jive with the barrel's .810" diameter circumference.
A socket draped with sandpaper + patient strokes = beautiful mating of parts.
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lapping the base can help if the base doesn't fit well. The Weaver Al bases lap easy.

This is an old post. But I think the guy went wrong when a 'smith' put and extra screw/thread in. may have just bent the soft AL base.
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