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Old 03-19-2017, 12:55 PM
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I have a Savage Stealth 10BA in 6.5 Creedmoor that I am looking to use for both hunting and long range shooting.

I am trying to select a scope that will allow me to accomplish both and have narrowed it down to 2 scopes that will fit my budget.

1) Leupold VX3i Varmint Hunter 4.5-14x 50mm

2) Burris Fullfield E1 6.5-20x 50mm

Can someone help me distinguish which would work best for what I am trying to accomplish?

I am leaning towards the Burris due to larger power range, but I am not as familiar with them as I am with Leupold.

Thanks in advance.
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Old 03-19-2017, 01:08 PM
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For hunting, you are going to want to go with the 4.5x14. Every variable hunting scope needs a low power setting for closer targets. Even if you intend to hunt wide open spaces, you never know when you are going to end up in some brush and a 6.5x scope will be a handicap there. Even at 400 yards, the 4.5x will get the job done on medium and large game. Certainly the 14x will. This is why 3x9 and 4x12 power scopes are so popular for hunting.

On the brands, I am a fan of both Burris and Leupold. I think the consensus here will be that power ranges aside, the Leupold VX3 is a better scope than the Burris Fullfiled. And I hunt with three Fullfields and think they are very solid scopes.
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I agree with above said by Bird Dog II, but would also suggest something less than a 50mm objective. That large an objective is not conducive to keeping the scope height in a comfortable plane.

I can think of little use for it either at the range or when hunting. IF extreme low light performance is needed or wanted, youd be better served going with a scope with illuminated reticle over one without and sporting a 50mm objective.

Good luck with whatever you ultimately choose.
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Old 03-19-2017, 01:18 PM
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Thanks Bird Dog II for your quick response.

Burris makes the same scope in a 4.5-14 x 42 mm, which would address your point to not having a low setting for closer hunting targets.

But I am still at a toss up between Leupold or Burris. Does the higher price justify the Leupold and will I notice a difference between the 2 when at the range or in the field?
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Old 03-19-2017, 01:27 PM
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I have one Burris and many Leupolds. The Burris is a Fullfield II 2-7x35. I can find nothing wrong with it's optics or construction except: the magnification adjustment knob was too tight, or too hard to turn. SO I removed a little screw and, thinking that the screw was too long and thus interfering with the knob's rotation, I ground a few thousandths off its length. Well, that made the problem worse. Now the adjustment ring wouldn't turn at all! So I called Burris and explained my problem. They said "Send it in. We'll take care of it. No charge."

Pick the one you want and go with it (magnification exceptions as others said). I think there might not be a dimes difference between either quality-wise.

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Old 03-19-2017, 01:28 PM
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Thanks TnHunter... you have some valid points too. Low light is a concern for me due to deer movement patterns where they tend to bed down all day and move around early am and late afternoon.

I think your point will push me back to the drawing board and look into illuminated recticles... however I have a feeling that they might push me out of my affordability range. Any thoughts on an illuminated scope recommendation?
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Old 03-19-2017, 01:37 PM
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I did not look at the price of the VX-3I 4.5-1450. The scope I'd recommend in its place for very good low light performance would be the VX-R 4-1240.

I can only say that the added benefit of the Firedot reticle simply has to be seen to understand. I'd opt for the Firedot Duplex.

ADDED: A quick check shows about the same price as the VX-3I with 50mm objective.
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Thanks Bird Dog II for your quick response.

Burris makes the same scope in a 4.5-14 x 42 mm, which would address your point to not having a low setting for closer hunting targets.

But I am still at a toss up between Leupold or Burris. Does the higher price justify the Leupold and will I notice a difference between the 2 when at the range or in the field?
I have three Burris variable scopes. One is a 4.5-14x42mm that sits atop a very accurate .22-250. It is not however one of the new E1 models. It's a solid scope. The only complaint I have about it is that at 13x or 14x, it loses some definition. Just loses a bit of sharpness. I have the same issue with a Vortex 4x12 when it's cranked up to 11x or 12x. Both scopes are in the same price range, about $230. I would strongly suspect that at the next price point up, like your Leupold VX3, that would not be an issue. Again, it may not be an issue with the E1 model.

My two Burris FF 3x9x40s are actually pretty decent low light hunting scopes due to the big crosshairs they have. All told they are about on par with my Leupold VX2 3x9x40 with standard Duplex crosshair, which has very slightly better light gathering lens', but a thinner crosshair which is harder to see at dusk and dawn.

My Leupold FX3 6x, is a step above. It has lens' on par with the variable VX3 you are considering. Very good glass.
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I have the Burris Fullfield II 3.5x10x 50mm scope mounted on my M70 30-06 using Burris Signature Zee Medium rings. This is an excellent scope however I have no knowledge of the Leupold scopes. The Burris is very clear and I find it great in low light conditions.


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Thanks everyone... I have decided to go with the Burris Fullfield E1 in a 4.5x14x42.

Travis you touched on my next question... scope rings.

Any recommendations on scope rings for the Stealth BA would be greatly appreciated.
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I recommend the Burris Signature Zee Medium rings with the zero offsets. There are a lot of very good rings on the market.
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I've got a good number of scoped CF rifles, somewhere around 50 +/-. I have lots of mounting systems, from Good old Weaver to Leupold standard, QD and permanent lock to Warne permanent and QD.

There's more than a couple systems stronger than the popular "standard" systems that feature a Windage adjustable rear sight.

I like the standard systems, but like a Warne base and ring system even more. It is more $$, however. With a 42mm objective, medium height will be fine.

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Burris makes an XTR ring which offers MOA adjustments.

Any thoughts on those?

Also... one last scope question because I was about to pull the trigger on the 4.5-14 x42 when I saw they make the same scope model in a 3-9x40 with an illuminated recticle for almost the same price. Rifle is planned to be used for deer, elk, boar, and the occasional target shooting from 500 -800+ yards. Will I need extra power settings of the 4.5-14 or will the 3-9 with illumination be sufficient in those ranges?

Thanks everyone for your patience with me and help.
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RodnGun, I cannot remember which Forum member alerted us to this sale, but it's still on-going and you might add this one to your list for consideration:

The Vortex Viper 6.5-20x44

Vortex Optics Viper Rifle Scope 30mm Tube 6.5-20x 44mm Side Focus


ON EDIT: Oooops. I see now that you've made your decision. OK, I also recommend the Burris Signature Zee rings. They come with "0" inserts that rotate within the ring and there is an insert "kit" that has different size offsets if you were to need them.
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Thanks for the recommendation Stretch, but that option I would not consider because of it not having a low power setting as another member pointed out to me earlier in the thread would be important when hunting for deer etc.

That's why I am at an odds end between 4.5-14x or 3-9x now.
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4.5-14 would be my choice. 4.5 is low enough that you'll be fine at the closest ranges and you still have the 14x for a little more zoom when needed.
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