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Old 04-11-2017, 05:23 AM
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scope for 300 to 500 yard paper target?

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I have ask this question several times and am still confused. Wish there was a place to
look at all of them...95 percent of my shooting is from 100 to 500 yard at paper targets
informal f class..The bulls are not to big. Iknow some of the guys have high dollar rigs,etc
I am shooting a savage action 223 wylde bull barrel..Can't afford all the bells and whisles
the others use..But want a good class..I was using a t36 but the mirage is a *****...
I have had so many suggwstion and most are high dollar scopes..I don't care if I can see the bullet holes or not..It's all just fun for this old fart..This is bench shooting..So can someone please
give me an honest opinion on what would be a good choice for me..I would appreciate it..Thank you..

Right now I have an swfa 20 on it..But was thinking maybe high mag for the 500 target..

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Old 04-11-2017, 05:38 AM
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There's an excellent discount now on a Vortex Viper 30mm 6.5-20x44 scope with side focus and mil-dot reticle. I'd be happy to pass on a link to you, if that's a scope you might have interest in. PM me for the link.
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Old 04-11-2017, 05:58 AM
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Observed mirage from atmospheric conditions cannot be overcome by any high-dollar scope, as far as I know. While very useful to read wind, it can be problematic especially when "in a boil". Tnhunter's suggested scope would help because the best way to minimize mirage is to dial down the magnification.

Limited to a 4.5X scope for service rifle, mirage is rarely a problem and I have a 60X scope for scoring, but more importantly, for reading the wind via the mirage that shows clearly at the higher magnification.
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Old 04-12-2017, 12:33 PM
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Yes, the mirage will be lessened if you lower the power/get a scope you can dial back.
The issue becomes how your eyes are, here is an example.

I am completely entranced by the Primary Arms 4-14x Mil/Mil FFP scopes.
They don't have the worlds greatest: Eyebox, eye relief, coatings, repeatability.

What they have are those things BETTER than the SWFA 3-15 HD scope, with slightly more adjustment, and at a paltry $230. The next step-up optically is the Weaver 3-15 tactical.( #800363). But again, that is a $700 scope.

Short of actually looking through things in a store, you have to just take someones word on it.
I did a review of the PA with pictures a couple years back now. May or may not be something you find helpful.
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Old 04-19-2017, 07:48 AM
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I've had only one scope in my life bigger than a 3-9x. Got it right now. I wanted to be able to shoot paper at 500 yds also. Had a 700BDL barreled to 6.5x06 and put a 4 1/2x14 Nikon on it. Not something I'd wan to hunt with. But I did use it for hunting a couple years but put on a different scope.

What my experience with the 4 1/2-14x is is that the click adjustment's are very accurate! Scope is very clear and I've never needed over 8X for anythong, maybe I should have just got a 3-9x! But it's not for hunting much and my rifle looks kinda cool with that scope on it, much cooler than with the 3-9x I used for hunting!

The 4 1/2x14x does have a side focus and I do adjust it for different ranges. Haven't a clue if it works or not! I've never noticed a paralex problem in any scope, don't know what to look for.

If I were a serious 500yd shooter, I think I'd look into a similar power Leupold. A 6 1/2-20 runs $900 at Optic Planet. Exactly what you'd get for the extra money, I couldn't tell you but you will get the Leupold warrantee behind it and that has to be the best in the world!
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