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Old 04-28-2017, 02:09 AM
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I am fitting out one of my shotguns for deer hunting this year. This is my first time venturing into the shotgun/slug world. I have about 6 stand locations and the shots will all be under 60 yds, so I figured that instead of taking my trusty 300 WM or 270 out to these close range areas, I would just fit out one of my smoothbores for slugs. I don't want to spend hundreds of dollars one a shotgun scope, and it seems like the Simmons Prohunter series will fill the bill. Does anyone have any hands on experience with them? I am trying to decide between the 1.5-5 power or the plain jane 4x? Any thoughts or reccomendations? I will be sighting the shotgun at 50 yds, and shooting at 100 to check groupings in case I were to get a 100 yd shot on the walks into the stands in the afternoons. Like I said before, 60 yds is the max shooting lane at all of my stands. Thanks in advance for the help!
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Simmons scopes probably have a useful purpose, but in my experience, it is NOT as an optic mounted on any kind of firearm. The few Simmons scopes I've dealt with have wound up in the "round file", more often than not...I wouldn't gift one to my worst enemy.

And that's all I have to say about that.
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Those distances are normal for deer hunting here and shotguns are the usual tool. I have never use a scope preferring a rifle sighted barrel instead.
Either way, you may want to test several types/brands of slugs with your rig as some are finicky with certain barrels.
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I'm not a fan of Simmons brand scopes and have not been a fan since I had one of their better models puke on me while the rifle sat in the cabinet. One good thing that happened then though was that the problem with that Simmons Whitetail Classic started my changeover to much better scopes on my rifles.

When deciding between scopes of lesser VS higher magnification I always look at the minimum range shots as a better determining factor over the odd or rare possibility of a long range shot. While many feel a 4x to be a fine all around choice for short to medium ranges, I way prefer the added FOV given by a scope with 1, 2 or 3x on the low side.

For the circumstances you mentioned I'd want a 1-4 or 2-7 as my choice given the much larger FOV at 20-50 yards. As a specific recommendation, I like the Nikon Prostaff 2-732 for that application. I've owned 4 or 5 of these scopes and still use one every year mounted on my ML. I've taken several nice bucks at ranges from about 25 to 120 yards, including two in very low light. An internet search should find you one for under $145 delivered to your door.

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Thanks for the reccomendations guys. I haven't ever owned a Simmons, so good to know they have some problems. I looked at the Nikons, and that's probably the route I will go, something variable and having a larger FOV is always a plus. I would use iron sights, but I see to many deer in low light for me to want to go that route. I like irons, but I want the advantage a scope gives for low light
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I'm another one who would recommend against buying a Simmons. Everyone I've had let me down
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I know guys that swear by them as good scopes. Myself I've seen them self destruct within 20 rounds from a 06. I had 1 and only 1 that was on a ctr fire scope mounted on a 22 rifle. Went to make an elevation adjustment and the whole turret came off the scope.

If I was going to use a shotgun under 100yds I'd look at a decent red dot sight or as suggested a low power variable.
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I couldn't even have one to hold up on a .22 LR. Just sayin
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Don't own any of the present day made Simmons Pro Hunter scopes, but do own several of the Pro Hunter scopes made when Meade owned Simmons. Guess it was at least 4 years ago when Meade sold Simmons to Bushnell and now Vista Outdoors owns Bushnell, Simmons, Weaver and maybe one or two other rifle optics brands. Found them to be decent scopes for their price. All of them are mounted on a centerfire rifle with a mild recoil, such as a 257 Roberts. I've no complaints about mine.
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FWIW, I have had several different Simmons scopes - all 2x20, except for one 1.5-5 variable - mounted on shotguns & rifles (including a .45-70 Ruger #1-S), and none of them ever caused an issue for me.

I like the low power (and the 1.5 setting on the variable), because using them is like using a peepsight, but with a little magnification - which comes in handy when hunting dark Black Cedar swamps and/or during the pre-sunrise/twilight times of prime game animal movement.

Also, they have a nice/long (5") eye relief which makes shooting hard-recoiling guns safer & more comfortable - and the 2x20's weigh only 7oz (almost half the weight of larger scopes).


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