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Old 04-17-2017, 04:44 PM
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Good-Evening to all; I have a Lever take-down High Standard Pistol. It came with {6} Barrel's,one of which is a OCTAGON 6 3/4" long. My problem is that there are no pictures to compare to the pistol, and there is nobody that can cofirm the manufacture date, or MODEL? Does anybody, know anything, about High-Standard Pistols? Thank-You.
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Old 04-17-2017, 05:56 PM
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Somebody is going to ask you not to double post.

What is written on the pistol? If it has a serial just put the pre-fix and the first two numbers.

Send me pictures and I'll post them for you. jbelk 09 at g mail dot com Take out the spaces.
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Old 04-17-2017, 06:14 PM
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i have a blog on every match gun made.
see if its in there.
http://mausercentral.com/forum/viewt...=high+standard
btw, octagon bbls were towards the end around 81-82.
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Old 04-18-2017, 02:26 AM
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The lever take down HSs were the G series which began manufacture in the late 1940s. These were the first use of interchangeable barrels. Four models were offered GB, GD, GE, GO (Olympic model. 22 Short).
GB - Plastic grips, fixed sights, small grip frame
GD - Walnut grips, adjustable sights, medium weight barrel
GE - Heavy bull barrel, Fancy walnut, adj. sights
The G series ended production in 1950. High Standard then began production of its Supermatic.
A G-O model (from Tom Dance)
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I thought he was talking about the take-down lever on the H-D Military.
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Old 04-18-2017, 08:24 AM
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I have a HD-Military.
The barrels on that pistol are not quick change??
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fC6JRm2kXXU
4:23 into this, did the pistol go full auto???
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Old 04-18-2017, 08:29 AM
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The barrel is not quick change on the H-D. There is a take-down lever on the right side but if you don't know the secret of the recoil capture button on the top, you're very likely to ruin a VERY nice pistol!

Quick and dirt picture with controls. The H-D Military is one of the easiest guns for the amateur 'gunsmith' to totally ruin and have on idea how he did it.
The cross pin that holds the barrel in is just under the U in 'capture'.

BTW-- This gun was found north of Glenwood Springs, CO by an elk hunter laying next to a big spruce tree. It had been there for years and was pretty much rotten outside and the (light sport) barrel was ruined. The finder had taken it apart and hosed it down with WD-40 before bringing it into the shop. I gave him the standard $20 for a parts gun and restored it with a custom barrel, surface grinding and stoning the parts, rust blue and a couple replaced internal parts.

Anytime you find an H-D that's ''hung-up' and wont come apart or go together right', you usually find Bubba tracks all over it and they're sometimes cheap at gunshows. My dad went with me to ONE gunshow when I was 17 years old. I found a 'hung-up' H-D for $8 and bought it thinking I'd impress my dad by repairing it and selling it at the show for a profit.
#$*@^#$$ gun!!! My name was Bubba!!!

(To repair takes a very precise hole being drilled at a VERY specific spot in the slide.)

Neat video. I even recognize where he was!
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4:23 into this, did the pistol go full auto???
No, that was a left hand fan.
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No, that was a left hand fan.
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I watched that clip a dozen times and I do not see what you describe??
My HD is in bad order!
When I bought it it came with after-market magazines and they did not feed reliably!
I have purchased a couple 2-tone original magazines that were $75.00 each one is good the other is poor with cracking to the lips.
BUT, the pistol was dry fired to the extent that the chamber face is indented and will not fire reliably.
I have replaced the firing pin and that helped a little.
The firing pin has such a tiny point!
My Sport King is Awesome!! I shoot it all the time!
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gbro--
I have great empathy for those with nice guns that don't work. It injures my tender sensibilities as a gunsmith, I guess.

The firing pins are really straight-forward but hard to make in one piece without a little box tool lathe, but can be made on any lathe by silvers soldering the two 'collars' on a piece of drill rod.

See the shiny screw above the firing pin hole in the slide? That is the firing pin adjustment screw. It actually just blocks the hammer fall. It should be adjusted OUT until it miss-fires and then IN a half a turn. If you adjust it by sight and how far it sticks out of the bolt face, it'll ding the chamber because it doesn't take the inertial effect into account. It sounds like your 'Bubba' already did that.

To make them fire with a divot--- Look at the cross cut-out on the rear of the firing pin. That's where the firing pin retaining screw fits to hold the firing pin in the slide. Normally, the rear of that cut-out should NOT touch the screw. The firing pin adjuster screw takes the force of the hammer fall. BUT, you have quite a bit of adjustment by moving the cross cut back by .010 or so and you can flatten one side of the retaining screw to gain another .010. (smoke the screw to see what side is hitting.)

The barrel can be turned back to get a new, clean cross hole location and then refaced, new extractor cut and new chamber reamed.
New barrels are simple to make from blanks, too.

Don't be afraid to peen the tip of the firing pin to 'stretch it' a little. Light taps with a hammer and anvil of hard metal will draw it right out.
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I thought he was talking about the take-down lever on the H-D Military.
Interesting. Since he mentioned having six barrels, I immediately thought of the lever take down G-series guns which allowed for barrel interchangeability.
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Well, how did I miss six barrels?! is the question to answer. SHeesh!
I agree. Maybe an original Supermatic before the push bottons?

BTW-- Not many recognize a G as having a 'lever' because it's mostly hidden.

I hope this is not another 'post and go'!!

About the fast shots it the video. I watched that several more times and thing he was slapping with the right hand, but he twisted the left hand around a little at the same time.

He made a big deal out of the slide stop being on the 'wrong' side. Actually, the gun is supposed to be closed as he finally demonstrated. Just pull the slide back. It's NOT a combat pistol!
Also, the little leaf spring that operates the slide stop is ONLY being held in the gun by the right hand grip. It has a ticket to another dimension and is only looking for daylight to leave.

The first firing pin I made for a Hi-Standard was for a Sport King I was using for Winter League at Gunsmiths school. It was just a tiny bit large and sticky and ran five from the magazine SO fast!!!
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I know I was cursing the inventor of them when I was refinishing the one I refinished in school because of how asinine it was to take apart and put back together.
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