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Old 01-07-2017, 09:40 AM
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RJ, before I shot a client's Sendero in 7mm Rem Mag in Colorado I had thought that my 26" Musgrave model Vrystaat ("Free State") was the most accurate rifle available. I think for off the shelf they still are, being smaller than .4 MOA at 100 metres, out the shop and to the range.

That Sendero was a one inch at 300 yards shooter, with its very heavy laminated stock. Without the bipod it had it may meet the 13 lbs weight limit for this discipline. My client Bill from Virginia of course had all the accurising done - but it does say something for the Remington action-barrel concentricity.
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Old 01-07-2017, 10:27 AM
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I watched as Dr. Suess (Ray Suesserman) did the trigger before I brought the "sevumag" home. Later he redid the crown too. It's a no think, kill 'em dead shooter. It'll one hole 150 grain Sierras at one hundred and smoke prairie dogs out past 400. I've never shot it for groups at 300.

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Old 01-07-2017, 07:24 PM
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RJ, if it is not above 13 lbs and if the scope is not more than 14x and if the barrel (measured when registering) is not more than 26" it is good to go. Handloaded ammunition is allowed at the hunting target competitions.

Time some of you guys come for a visit, or when I am back in the US we make a team (me excluded - I'll just write the constitution

RJ - maybe you should have a go at the SA hunting rifle group shooting competition too, with that rifle. Only PMP factory ammunition allowed there, bought when registering. The last winner (21 years old kid) shot .16" three shot group at 110 yards using his .300 Win Mag and 220gr PMP ProAmm ammunition in 100 degrees, windy conditions. Has been 3 x winner in a row now; previously with a 30-06 .18" (220gr), 9.3x62 (286gr) .18", Previous year he was runner up with a .308W .16" (180gr )- and before that winning the juniors for two years with a .308W and .222Rem. Wins a darn expensive hunting rifle each year.

The shooter's yearly club competition average must be .5 MOA or less to qualify for the nationals and normally between 180 to 200 shooters join the finals. Same specifications for the rifles at this shoot as for the hunting competitions. Only one X-type front rest (supplied) allowed. Because all the rifles and calibres are accurate - it is the shooter that is being tested in these competitions.
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Old 01-12-2017, 07:02 PM
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RJ, if it is not above 13 lbs and if the scope is not more than 14x and if the barrel (measured when registering) is not more than 26" it is good to go. Handloaded ammunition is allowed at the hunting target competitions.

Time some of you guys come for a visit, or when I am back in the US we make a team (me excluded - I'll just write the constitution

RJ - maybe you should have a go at the SA hunting rifle group shooting competition too, with that rifle. Only PMP factory ammunition allowed there, bought when registering. The last winner (21 years old kid) shot .16" three shot group at 110 yards using his .300 Win Mag and 220gr PMP ProAmm ammunition in 100 degrees, windy conditions. Has been 3 x winner in a row now; previously with a 30-06 .18" (220gr), 9.3x62 (286gr) .18", Previous year he was runner up with a .308W .16" (180gr )- and before that winning the juniors for two years with a .308W and .222Rem. Wins a darn expensive hunting rifle each year.

The shooter's yearly club competition average must be .5 MOA or less to qualify for the nationals and normally between 180 to 200 shooters join the finals. Same specifications for the rifles at this shoot as for the hunting competitions. Only one X-type front rest (supplied) allowed. Because all the rifles and calibres are accurate - it is the shooter that is being tested in these competitions.
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Old 01-12-2017, 09:02 PM
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Hipshot, do you want Recoil Junky with his Sendero or that keen-eyed youngster who is turning the tables on the experts?

I see now that I in fact miss typed incorrectly that he was runner up with .16". The winner did a .18" and the kid was runner up with something close.

With the many shooters qualifying for this group shooting event with a yearly club average of .5MOA minimum the organisers are considering to extend the distance to 150 metres (164 yards).

Although they do not sponsor the shoot PMP clearly uses it to brag a little about the accuracy of their off the shelf hunting ammunition. That of course is old history because in all the Bisley international 100-900 metres competitions only PMP ammunition has been the consensus choice by all competitors, whether the competition was held in England or Canada. (All shooters are required to use exactly the same ammunition, handed out at the range).
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Old 01-13-2017, 04:16 AM
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This looks really interesting! It reminds me of our sporting clays in that you get to practice actual shooting scenarios. A good sized chunk of property is involved so that may be hard to come by in Southern Wisconsin.
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Old 01-13-2017, 04:50 AM
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Yes, Mike - the Hunting Rifle competitions, with six ranges do need a lot of spread out space with a LOT of shooting going on the whole day.

Typically there will be a few ranchers in a few districts (counties) who will sponsor a suitable piece of their property where the six ranges can be laid out for the three-monthly club shoots, or a provincial or national shoot. The nationals are attempted to be held every year at a different venue so that shooters can have new surroundings every year, but typically this is held near a big city in the centre of the country.

Presently it is only South Africa and Namibia where suitable infra-structure exists for the international event.

One can of course set up a scaled down version anywhere you have a 400 yard distance with say two ranges, or even one. I already know of two such places near me in Colorado where I plan to start a small club - also for practise for out of State hunters during the different hunting schedules, or "seasons" as they are called.
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Better photos of scoring on deer size and smaller game targets

These photos have better printed scoring numbers.

The hunting derived target-shooting sport.-jaggeweerskiet01.jpg Springbok at about 300 yards.

The hunting derived target-shooting sport.-jaggeweervlakvark.jpg Warthog, typically off-hand at 90-110 yards
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The hunting derived target-shooting sport.-jaggeweerjakkals01b.jpg Jackal - mostly 300 yards+.

The hunting derived target-shooting sport.-jaggeweerspringbok01.jpg Springbok - slightly smaller than pronghorn, 200-300 yards.

The hunting derived target-shooting sport.-jaggeweerimpala02b.jpg Impala - white tail deer size, mostly off-hand at 110 yards.

The hunting derived target-shooting sport.-jaggeweerimpala01.jpg Impala.

The hunting derived target-shooting sport.-jaggeweerblesbok02b.jpg Blesbok - mule deer size 100 to 400 yards.

The hunting derived target-shooting sport.-jaggeweerblesbok01.jpg Blesbok.
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I'd be shooting 30's all the time!

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Then some local guy with with at least five 30.1s will win the new CZ 550... Every time you can be sure of a brain shot it must be taken. It takes guts because outside the 30.1 circle line is a -15 penalty. A miss is also -15 penalty.
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Old 01-21-2017, 07:54 AM
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I guess I have to quit thinking "trophy" and start thinking "CZ 550"

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Old 01-21-2017, 08:36 AM
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Young hunter education / training

As I mentioned earlier, it started as the best way to educate young hunters. Here is the curriculum for self study: An $8 manual but worth a life time of experience for a novice hunter.

Some of the core aspects covered in the manual:

Safe handling of firearms
Shooting range equipment
Evaluation of shooters equipment
Basic shooting skills:
Determine eye dominance
Proper hold and grip of a rifle
Breathing
Shooting positions and natural direction
Trigger squeeze and control
Following through of the shot
Shooting aids (support)
Shooting skills for hunting
Sighting-in of rifles
Trajectories
Shooting positions for hunting
Shot placement for hunting
Head shots versus heart/lung shots
Choice of calibre/bullet for hunting
Advanced shooting skills for hunting
Longer distances (200 tot 300m)
Requirements for equipment and ammunition
Sighting-in of rifles at 200 en 300m
Effect of bullet trajectory on shot placement over longer distances
Effect of wind and mirage on the bullet path
Shooting positions over longer distances (hunting)
Ability to concentrate when it matters
The self-confidence of shooter/hunter

The hunting derived target-shooting sport.-musgrave-30-06.jpg Long time instructor André van der Merwe with his Musgrave 30-06.

The hunting derived target-shooting sport.-impaired01.jpg The sport has a special section for disabled shooters / hunters and property owners have dedicated facilities for these hunters.

The hunting derived target-shooting sport.-impaired02.jpg Showing his ten shot group at about 350 yards on the wildebeest.

André's cramped but neat reloading bench.
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