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Old 01-06-2017, 06:03 AM
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This sport originated in the South African city of Bloemfontein during the early 1990’s. The unique concept of shooting competitions in field conditions started as an idea for young hunter training but soon attracted interest from all over the country and it developed into a full-fledged national sport.

Most other shooting sports are unattractive to many potential competitors because some specialist target and shooting equipment may be required. Participation in Hunting Rifle Shooting requires only a hunting rifle in any centre fire calibre. There is a new dedicated discipline within the sport for the .222/.223 Rem cartridges which has its first official provincial shoot next Friday, February 13th, 2017

The SA Hunting Rifle Shooting Association is a member of the SA Shooting Sport Federation and as such recognised as the only official hunting rifle shooting sport in the country. The SAHRSA is affiliated to both the South African Hunting and Game Conservation Association and the Confederation of Hunting Associations of South Africa. The source of the participants are from the 45,000 members of these organisations.

Targets are life size pictures of popular hunting species, as well as steel discs where the terrain does not allow scoring of paper targets. It offers excellent opportunity to hone hunting shooting skills since hunting conditions are simulated thereby contributing to ethical hunting practices. Distances are unknown to the shooter but targets are set up not closer than 75 yards and not further than 400 yards (300 yards for the .222/.223). A variety of shooting positions and natural rests representing hunting conditions are used.

View of the targets will show the small heart and brain positions for a full score of 30 points, the other semi-vital areas for 20 or 15 points - and then the immediately adjacent non-vital areas where a -15 point penalty will be incurred. Added: Brain shots score .1 point extra - when there is a draw the shooter with the most brain shots win.

Scopes with x14 maximum enlargement are allowed, no turret adjustment allowed during the competition (these are sealed by the range officer immediately after the allowed two-shot sighters when registering), maximum 26” barrels are allowed and a total rifle weight of 13 lbs.

This sport is very challenging and extremely satisfying. It is as enjoyable as hunting, at a fraction of the cost. Every single competition has a unique range set up requiring a variety of skills from the marksman. The ultimate shooting sport indeed, which spawned the International Hunting Rifle Shooting Association and competitions.

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Old 01-06-2017, 06:43 AM
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What power scopes are most commonly used? Reticles?
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Old 01-06-2017, 06:54 AM
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Irv, because most shooters use their regular hunting rifles the 3-9 is still the most popular - parallax not being an issue yet. Duplex reticles I believe are the most common but I see my son uses the MOA circles underneath and to the sides.

Most hunters are pretty good at range estimation (no rangefinders allowed) but mirage and crosswind judgement certainly separate the winners from the also-ran shooters.

As added to the original: brain shots score a +.1 point: when there is a draw the shooter with the most brain shots win.

My apologies - I see the links to the videos did not upload - I shall try those again.
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This looks like a sport I'd truly love. I've had the pleasure of shooting with a good many of your fellow countrymen over the years. I've found that most of them are fairly good rifle, shotgun, and handgun shooters. One of them was here for six months, and during that time I took him all over the NE shooting in three gun competitions and he did very well borrowing my equipment. He also brought a bow over with him and he was a very good archer also. Some of the best handguns I've owned were built by S. Africans....Claudio Salasa and Paul Liebenburg. This looks much more interesting than "paper punching" fixed distances, etc.
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Old 01-06-2017, 07:30 AM
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NSB when I am back in Colorado I plan to encourage some interest in this sport. You mentioned something I have never even considered because bench shooting at paper targets is not much of my folks' culture: "This looks much more interesting than "paper punching" fixed distances, etc."

As I said it started as young hunter education - to get them away from wasting ammunition on paper at known distances and teach them the ethics of close-in stalking and range estimation and the huge possibility of missing an animal's heart beyond 200 yards.

There are many US hunters who have become friends with the families on whose land they had hunted and they come over to merely visit and then join in the club shoots - and have become very good at it and therefore in the field too - being allowed to to go out and hunt his kudu or whatever with only a tracker and no PH.

The International competition being held every two years attract official teams from Australia, Sweden, Czech, Italy, Namibia, with a number of individuals from the US, England, France, Germany, Argentina and New Zealand who then form an international team.
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Old 01-06-2017, 07:33 AM
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THAT looks like a hoot right there. My boys and I used to play games when out shooting using my different sizes of steel plates to "kill" at different ranges from every conceivable position. Even using "Dad's back" for a rest was allowed.

I can see this becoming popular here in the US if we can get the mongrels off the couch and out from behind their video games.

The "shooting from rocks" picture is a lot like one of my Prairie Dog fields.



And then there's the "front tyre relaxed using shooting sticks" position my mate "Big Rob" likes so well.



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Old 01-06-2017, 07:40 AM
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From the IHRSA (international) website

Here are some videos of the International events:

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Old 01-06-2017, 07:48 AM
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RJ, that is exactly the countryside for this sport. The Americans until now have been uninterested to form an international team and come out to South Africa, but once we have county clubs going in Colorado or wherever using exactly the same constitution and rules we have here, then that will come.

All the other international teams now combine the event with hunting at local members' properties at attractive reduced rates, using their same rifles as in the competition.
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Old 01-06-2017, 07:51 AM
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Is there a "deer from the deck" category?



The shooter must be over 85 years young though.

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Old 01-06-2017, 08:01 AM
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You know, RJ. we can design exactly that discipline - I am serious - gongs and deer at unknown distances from the deck.

I forgot to mention - in the local competitions all targets closer than 110 yards are to be shot off-hand. Also - slings are only allowed like for use in normal hunting rifle carrying: factory attached to the rear and front end of the stock. Also, only bona fide hunting rifles that can be bought over the counter are allowed. That is why it is called "hunting rifle shooting" competitions.
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Look at the photo galleries:

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Look at this 140 yard group into an impala's heart from a makeshift rest:

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Old 01-06-2017, 08:20 AM
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Very interesting pictures . . . . . . I'm still looking . . .

Some of those "hunting rifles " don't look like "hunting rifles " though. More like "bench rest prima donnas" . They would stand every chance of being beaten by one of these bone stock, out of the box misfits :

Varmint rifles:



(top to bottom, 788 Rem in .222, 2 and 3 are both 788's in .223 Rem, 700SPS in .223 and a 700VLS in .243Win. and 700LR in 25-06)

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(top to bottom, 700 Classic 7mm Rem Mag, 1917 Remington Enfield 30-06AI, 700BDL 35 Whelen.)

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(700 Sendero SFII 300RUM)

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I love the hay bales!!!! Very reminiscent of how I hunt and the single stick, hmmmm, I must look into that one further.

Very interesting MgM, Thank you for the links.

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RJ: "Some of those "hunting rifles " don't look like "hunting rifles " though. More like "bench rest prima donnas" . They would stand every chance of being beaten by one of these bone stock, out of the box misfits"

Indeed - and these are used by individual shooters who can not score for the competition, but who, like golfers, really compete against themselves. in any case, it gives them no tactical advantage at all. Those are mostly shooters from abroad who participate as a non-competing individual. Like when I participate in the DG shoot with my considerably lighter than feather weight .303. At 55,000 psi It kicks as much as a .375 H&H but I am not allowed to log it as a DG participation shoot. I simply do it for the practice on the charging Cape buffalo and the quick shot on a sudden rising lion at 12 yards.

Beautiful hunters you have there, RJ - will do the job admirably. Added: If I had to make my choice there for use in a club shoot in this competition (I am not even at provincial, let alone national level) it would either be the '06 with 180gr PMP Pro-Amm bullets or the 700 Classic with 170gr PMP Pro-Amm factory ammunition.
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I love the hay bales!!!! Very reminiscent of how I hunt and the single stick, hmmmm, I must look into that one further.

Very interesting MgM, Thank you for the links.

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Sus has the best adoption of the single long stick support and I have only seen it used once at one of these competitions out here.
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This looks like a sport I'd truly love. I've had the pleasure of shooting with a good many of your fellow countrymen over the years. I've found that most of them are fairly good rifle, shotgun, and handgun shooters. One of them was here for six months, and during that time I took him all over the NE shooting in three gun competitions and he did very well borrowing my equipment. He also brought a bow over with him and he was a very good archer also. Some of the best handguns I've owned were built by S. Africans....Claudio Salasa and Paul Liebenburg. This looks much more interesting than "paper punching" fixed distances, etc.
What I like about the association rules is that they allude to the fact - and teach the newcomer to hunting that:

1. Gimmicks and more money do not make you a better hunter.

2. All cartridges are inherently more accurate than the shooter.

3. NOTHING beats accurate range estimation, no matter the cartridge you shoot.

4. Even a light wind is a terrible leveller beyond 200 yards.

5. The heart is where a bullet's home is - when it is too far for a brain shot.
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How is scoring done?

At each club (or provincial or national or international) shoot six different shooting ranges will be set up. Five shots are fired at every range, and where five targets are spread out between 80 and 400 yards, 90 seconds are allowed for the five shots. A full score (5x30, all heart or brain shots) will get the shooter 150 points, plus .1 for every brain shot.

There always will be at least one range with same animal images all in a line at some unknown distance. Each shooter shoots 5 shots at his numbered target in 60 seconds after which all walk the distance to get their scores.

In difficult terrain 5x 8" gongs (never closer than 200 yards) are set out between 200 and 400 yards and the score is by noise of the gong. This is the area for full scores because the gongs are 4x the size of the heart and brain targets. No noise and a -15 point penalty is collected.

A full score is is 6x150 =900 points (+ the .1 for brain shots in case there is a draw between two or more shooters).

Here is a quick run down of the 2014 medal winners based on the provincial competitions:

The top scorer got 810 points out of the possible 900. His score is taken as perfect, and to get gold you had to get at least 80% of the top score. 14 shooters won gold, 35 won silver (at least 60% of the top score) and 59 won bronze (at least 50% of the top score of 810 points).

To lose only 3x30 points out of a possible 900 means the top shooter had missed less than 2 heart shots per range in all his 30 shots fired, but still had all his shots within one inch around the heart. Some guys are just good shooters, no matter the conditions.

Americans are naturally interested in the rifle calibres used. In fact, in the scoring sheets these are not even mentioned. Like in the hunting rifle group shooting competitions (the other popular sport) these are merely a reflection of the relative popularity of the different big game hunting cartridges out here. In the top 20 there will always be about 12x .308W, 2x 30-06, 2x 7x64 Brenneke, 1x 7mm Rem Mag, 1x 7x57.
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Me 'n the "sevumag" would have a go for sure. I DON"T take it elk hunting if I DON"T want to kill something. I just "aim" and things fall down. I don't even remember squeezing the trigger. One of my 788's in .223 is that way too.

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