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Old 09-10-2005, 02:38 PM
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I am a levergun fan and shooting and reloading for Marlins in 30-30,32-40,32special and 38-55. I recently accquired a relined Ruger #1 in 25-35.

Now comes the problem. I just accidently ran accross an unusal rifle in 219 Zipper. An elderly benchrest shooter has a rechambered Ruger #1 Varmint model in 219 Zipper with set trigger. This rifle apparently began life as a 223 varmint model. The gun wears a Burris 12x scope. The gentleman is asking $600 for the gun and scope with a set of 219 Zipper dies and some ammo. I do not need this gun but to round out the rimmed cased family, it is really calling out to me.

QUESTIONS- Will the zipper do anything that a 223 or 22-250 won't do as well? Does this piece have an real advantages other than nostagia? How hard is the brass to reform?

What do you guys think?

Centex Bill
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Old 09-10-2005, 05:24 PM
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Here's a nice article on the cartridge..

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Old 09-14-2005, 01:00 PM
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Centex Bill,

I have a 219 Zipper Marlin 336 and I can just about duplicate 223 ballistics before I see extraction problems. You won't get too close to 22-250 speeds I don't think, although maybe a #1 will extract better. With so much body taper you get a lot of rearward thrust. Cases are super easy to form. Just run 25-35 brass into a 219 zipper full length size die and then trim off the excess length.
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Old 09-14-2005, 06:39 PM
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.219 is kind of the "british" apreach to cartidges...can get the .223's ballistics at low pressure. In a strong action, can get it up and running at some pretty high velocity...but then you'd only be duplicating what the .225WCF did (and failed at doing for that matter as .225's are few and far between).

Think of it this way...run at 40K pressure it will do what the .223 does at 55K pressure. Stay in that pressure area, and there is no reason you can't use cheap reformed 30/30's as your basic brass.

Why bother?..b.ecsome some types of rifles just seem to cry out for a bit rimmed case.
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